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Poll: Utahns divided on migrants

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Anonymous | 1:22 a.m. Feb. 23, 2008
It was at 63% a few weeks ago, and I am not hearing any movement either way. Now we all know Dan Jones would never ask leading questions, but many have fallen into the immigration bill trap set by the media members of the Salt Lake Chamber of commerce.

It's not an immigration bill, it's to stop the illegal aliens entering this country. And I take offense to those clouding the issue.
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Bob G | 4:53 a.m. Feb. 23, 2008
What is there to study? Do we study all criminals before we prosecute them for breaking laws? No. Only the illegal aliens need to be studied but its not what they really mean. What this study wants to do is delay any actions against illegals and on businesses employing them. We have had this issue under study for over 20 years now so how much longer does it take? These criminal illegals, all of them and their families, must be confronted by law enforcement and enforce all laws. America cannot turn a blind eye and hope the problem goes away and that the american people will accept the criminal actions against their live and lively hood forever. The american people are the victims of illegal aliens and our legislators have been acting long enough to aid and abet the actions of employers and the use of illegal aliens in the work force. The people of Utah are fed up with no action policies. If the governor wants to do a study, look at the benefits and cost reductions to government and social programs and education. Illegal Mexicans do not want citizenship, only to freeload, rob, and steal from Americans
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liberal larry | 7:00 a.m. Feb. 23, 2008
The immigration issue is a tough one for conservatives. It pits their two defining traits against each other, fear and greed. The issue of immigration is primarily economic. "Illegals" want to feed their families, and American businesses want cheap, compliant labor. All the deportations, and fences, in the world won't solve the problem as long as there are jobs in this country for "illegals",
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Anonymous | 7:55 a.m. Feb. 23, 2008
Mano dura contra los ilegales! Crack down hard now and then extend compassion afterwards as needed. No more status quo. No more politicians doing nothing!
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Really | 9:35 a.m. Feb. 23, 2008
Just what part of ILLEGAL is it that our legislators don't understand? If this issue does not get some drastic teeth in it, we out here have an option come election time. You better make sure what ever you are about to study gets done in this session or alot of you will be attending gatherings in the future at a different location than the state capital building in a couple years. Watch this one VOTERS.
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Spanky | 9:38 a.m. Feb. 23, 2008
I don't know who Dan Jones polled, but I know from personal experience that the vast majority of citizens in this state are against illegal immigration and want the problem solved now, not in 6 months, not in 6 years. Here's the deal. Business owners who have been using cheap illegal labor for years, and who contribute to politicians campaign chests, are putting pressure on these politicians to go against the will of the American people. They think if they stall long enough, we'll just get tired and go away. Not this time.
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study it?!? | 9:51 a.m. Feb. 23, 2008
A study? Throw millions of dollars at a study? This is what makes people distrust and despise government (and their partners in crime in the local media) MAybe we can put all the legislators on a plane to western Europe and they can see firsthand how well multiculturalism and unrestricted immigration works out.
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jr | 9:48 a.m. Feb. 23, 2008
Since I never seem to be where the polls are - I have one question - Why did I pay the price to be a legal immigrant when the doors are now wide open for the new slaves of America. The reason the politicians and businesses don't want to do anything is because they are making money of the back of the ILLEGAL ALIANS please note they are NOT IMMIGRANTS, they have not immigrated here they have stolen across the border, they have stolen legal American citizens ID etc. They even fly their countrys flag as to say "in your face" citizens
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ha ha | 10:25 a.m. Feb. 23, 2008
Dont be so upset we are not taking over. We are simply moving back in.
the mexican
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Tax papers cover the burden | 10:25 a.m. Feb. 23, 2008
Send the illegals home so we could put the money spent on illegals for education and healthcare to the poor LEGAL citizens in our own country. We really need to start putting money into the inner city schools. Has anyone been to Atlanta, Houston, or Memphis lately. Their inner cities need help bad. Tax payers have to pay the burden for the business' who reap all the rewards. Our country is in a recession, its time to take care of our own. Illegals broke the law coming here and many of them steal social security numbers also. I dont have sympathy for illegals.
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Will Pearson | 10:31 a.m. Feb. 23, 2008
As an American westerner I have nothing against Latin-American immigrants. They have always been creative and colorful parts of my life. Only fools would reject such charming and energetic persons. We self-proclaimed Christians are the ones who should be punished for refusing our very God, who commanded us to "Love thy neighbor as thyself."
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Kevin in Texas | 10:39 a.m. Feb. 23, 2008
All the problems with illegal migrants stem from their leagal status. Make them leagal and all of these problems resolve themselves. Provide a way for them to become leagal, through paying a fine or taxes and stop new immigrants by slapping a major fine on the employers who hire illeagals and the problem will be solved.
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John | 10:35 a.m. Feb. 23, 2008
and in response to liberal larry's statement:

"All the deportations, and fences, in the
world won't solve the problem as long as
there are jobs in this country
for "illegals",

Liberal Larry would have us just throw in the towel and do nothing. He also provides no support for this claim. Notice that people like this never propose an alternative solution, they just criticize. No, SB81 wont solve ALL problems concerning illegal immigration, but at least its a start.
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Anonymous | 10:39 a.m. Feb. 23, 2008
I agree with the study. This is the way to go. Utahns are finally waking up to what is moral and the right thing to do. Just because the extremist are loud doesn't mean the rest of Utah feels the same way. The extremist remind me of Germany before World War II, blame the Jews for everything.
Althoug illegal immigrants are braking the law, the law can be changed. How many of you have broken the speed limit law? Most I'm sure. That doesn't make you a criminal.
I don't think illegal immigrants are using public benefits. Those people are scared of being reported and deported. Why would they go to a place where they could be deported? It doesn't make sense.
Or are they refering to the children illegal immigrants are having here who are Americans? If this is the case, those children have the right. Maybe this is racism pure and simple.
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Stewart | 10:53 a.m. Feb. 23, 2008
So Utahns are divided on the "Migrant" issue?(euphemism for illegal alien). I think this depends on who takes the poll. KSL and The Deseret Morning News have the same corporate bosses, and they have a definite agenda of their own. This looks like a case of using a poll created to push an agenda. I don't trust it. I doubt it feels right to many of you either.

The legislators know that the people want something done now! Just look at the bills that have passed through the House where they are more in touch with the people than the Senate. The voters will see that pushing any of these bills into SB97 (Jenkins) by the Senate will be the same as voting against them. The people want action now, and the Senators know it, but some of them think the voters are fools.

Utah is a sanctuary state, and that needs to change. By enabling illegal immigration in Utah we become part of the national problem. We are as much a part of the problem as the federal government.
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Wilkey | 11:33 a.m. Feb. 23, 2008
One wonders where those numbers would stand if so many people weren't being mislead by their religious leaders. It stood at 63% - before the Mormon Church came out and called for "compassion," mostly towards wealthy Mormons like the Marriotts, Ivorys, Fultons, Peerys, and Holdings, all of whom rely on cheap immigrant labor and rapid population growth to keep their bank accounts fat.

One also wonders where that vote would stand if the media were more honest. Just a week ago this paper reported that Lake Powell could be empty by 2021 thanks to "growing demand." If the DMN had been honest they would've acknowledged that the source of that growing demand was rapid immigration, which is responsible for 82% of this nation's population growth.

It's also why we're not getting a tax cut this year - immigration eventually creates more government costs than it pays for (roads, schools, water, etc.)
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Jake | 11:38 a.m. Feb. 23, 2008
To Anon. get real,there is nothing to study. They are in this country illegally. Solution?? Simple,DEPORT THEM !! And set up ARMED military at movable locations at the boarders. Shoot.After while,no more illegals crossing the boarders.
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Paul | 11:39 a.m. Feb. 23, 2008
I agree with Spanky. I do not know anyone who does not want something done about illegal immigration. They seem compassionate about legal immigration, but their is very strong opposition to illegal immigrants. Even liberals I know want something done about this issue and done now. I really wonder who they are polling?
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Pat Dix | 11:42 a.m. Feb. 23, 2008
My ancestors immigated to this country legally,and struggled to survive without social support. They became good citizens fought and some died for this country. I resent handouts given to law breakers. We who are citizens obey the law, why should someone who has broken it get special priviledge. Kick them out and level huge fines on any one employing them
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Bob | 11:50 a.m. Feb. 23, 2008
What a farce! The illegals need to be dealt with. A good example this week of an illegal alien from Mexico driving a school bus in Minnesota who ran a stop sign and killed four of the students she was driving. She didn't even have a driver's license!!!
I hope the families of the dead students sue the state for every dime in their treasury. The people who a delaying dealing with these people had better try to wash the blood from their hands because they are as guilty as the offender.
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