Deseret News | Reader comments: LDS veteran makes film about his march for troop withdrawal

Reader comments
LDS veteran makes film about his march for troop withdrawal

peace promoter | 5:17 a.m. Feb. 20, 2008

I am 100% behind you. I wish I had known about the walk. I did support the war in the beginning and am now ashamed of that. I have that on my conscience and appreciate anyone who is out there promoting a peaceful resolve to America's mistakes. We can make this right and do something to help the people in Iraq.

God Bless.

SteveB | 5:54 a.m. Feb. 20, 2008

Bravo!

Bob Kjar | 6:36 a.m. Feb. 20, 2008

Mr. Thompson brings dishonor to the uniform he wore and to the great mem and women who have sacrificed their lives so that he can walk up and down Utah with his protest.

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Potential Viewer in Illinois | 6:48 a.m. Feb. 20, 2008

Congratulations to this young man and his family for their courageous stand. Does anyone know how to find out where the other viewings are? I live in Illinois and would like to see this.

Iraq vet | 7:04 a.m. Feb. 20, 2008

I have served one tour in Iraq and recieved notice this last week that I will likely serve another before too long. I have several friends who are now serving and one of my unit members died while serving there. I believe that we need to see this through to a succesful conclusion. The surge in Iraq is working. Students of military history recognize that successful counterinsurgency efforts require about 10 years. Nothing worthwhile in life comes without challenge. If we succeed in our efforts it will be as significant an event as the falling of the Berlin Wall. We owe it to all servicement who have served and especially to those who have fallen in battle that we not prematurely pull out before the job is done.

Sad | 7:02 a.m. Feb. 20, 2008

Very Sad exercise of free speech

Darryl M Stevens LTC Ret | 7:50 a.m. Feb. 20, 2008

I respect this mans opinion, but I think he is out of touch with reality. He doesn't know the consequence of pulling the troops out of Irag. It will effect what goes on in our own country. Even though I respect his opinion. I think he is a gutless wonder.

Right or wrong | 8:46 a.m. Feb. 20, 2008

Our invasion of Iraq was wrong and unnessasary. To continue will not make it right. For us to control Iraq would be a great benefit to our nation's wealth and security but that does not justify our occupation. There are many pieces of earth that would benefit us to own, but earth is not ours to own and not all human life wants to be made over in our image. We have to live and work with the rest of the world for mutual benefit and not emperialistic possesion. We have over 700 military bases in over 130 countries while there are no foriegn bases on our land. How would we react if we were invaded and occupied.

SFC RET DENNIS | 8:49 a.m. Feb. 20, 2008

Just before I entered the Army in 1975 I received my Patriarchal Blessing, was told that military service was in keeping with my second estate, earth life. I spent 21 years in service and will defend this persons right to protest, however wrong he may be. I would love to bring our troops home, however, we can not pull out until the job is done or those who have died will have died in vain. I have talked with people who have served this time around, I retired in 1996, that we are needed and they want us there. 80% of the country is as peaceful as life in my small town of Northern California. The press don't tall us cause it wont sale papers. This info came from people who served there and while out on patrol a lot of the Iraq people treat them with kindness and offer them food and water I may be retired but I steel love my Army, and I wonder how many soldiers I trained have been wounded or killed. If we wont to be free we most protect, we can not be Isolated like we were just before Pearl Harbor

Rob Bob | 9:20 a.m. Feb. 20, 2008

We all want peace. No rational human wants war, but there are a few irrational people out there who love to hurt and kill. If you saw someone getting mugged or beat up would it be wrong to stand on the sideline. You could console yourself with how peaceful you are. This is a part of the world where might makes right whether that might is good or evil. We are not there to rule the country, but to let the people learn to rule themselves. Every democratic constitution in the world is patterned after the U.S. constitution; that has to say something.
I want the troops home as much as anybody; war is a horrible thing, but to just yank the troops now would be the biggest mistake since going half-heartedly into Vietnam.

MoJules | 9:38 a.m. Feb. 20, 2008

I read this in the LDS news section, thinking that this was news about the LDS church or in relationship to it. All this story said was that he was an LDS man, so if Deseret News is going to stick every news story that involves LDS people, then wouldn't 80% of their news need to be put under this section? So if an LDS soldier does a walk in support of the war, will they do a story about that? We do not have all the intelligence that the leaders of this nation have, but we do know that we are no longer safe from terrorists. To say that we should not have gone to Iraq is to say that you would prefer to let those people be tortured and killed by Sadam and sons, is it not our duty as a strong country to help and protect those who are under the hand and gun of tyranny? I am proud and respect those soldiers that freely serve our country and do it for our country and not for their personal agenda. This is a volunteer service, no one is drafted, don't join if you don't agree.

whit | 9:44 a.m. Feb. 20, 2008

As an Army JAG Officer I felt betrayed and amazed that the US would forego the war against terrorists in lieu of a war in Iraq, a war with no relevance to fighting Al Qaeda. I felt even more betrayed when the Bush administration blackballed then fired (had resign) Gen. Shinseki, the consummate soldierï¿½s soldier and the only high ranking official who was honestly attempting to tell Americans the true cost of this war of choice. I felt even worse when the Bush administration put aside the Geneva Convention and basic law of war principals in Iraq, principals that I spent many hours studying at the JAG School and many hours teaching soldiers. God Bless America. However, God will only help those who help themselves. The US has dug itself into a deep and dark pit in Iraq. If Mr. Thompson seeks to shed light in the abyss, more power to him.

peace | 10:06 a.m. Feb. 20, 2008

If you truly believe in Christs teachings and not just to show lip service. Than ask yourselves what would Jesus do if He were the president of the US. Would He be so fast to react to an attack on this country or would He find out what is making the otherside tick. Fear is what leads to war, nothing more and nothing less. People have said that we as Americans can't talk to those terrorists. Is it possible to look within us as a nation first and see what could possibly make other nations and people dispise us so much? There was a done in 2003 that asked people from other countries who they feared most North Korea or the U.S., the answer was seven percent feared North Korea while 85 percent feared the U.S. It may be time to look at ourselves and ask why does the world fear us so much? Could it be that we think that someone like Saddam maybe a threat so we are going to take action to prevent any terrorist from attacking us so we attack them first? Are we now no better than a terrorist?

LDS in TN | 10:21 a.m. Feb. 20, 2008

I have never been to war. I have no claim to any special knowledge or understanding that one who has been there can make. I honor all those men and women who serve or have served in times of war. I thank Mr. Thompson for following his conscience and serving his country when called upon to do so. He is a hero to all Americans and does no dishonor to his uniform for expressing his feelings at this time. If he is "out of touch with reality," as one person expressed it, perhaps it is because of what he saw and did there. As I said, he was and is an American hero for serving his country in times of war. He is also an American hero for standing up for what he believes to be right. I lived through another very unpopular war just over three decades ago and I have often wondered about what became of the American heros brave enough to stand up and say, "Enough, this just isn't right." Hurrah for the heros at home and abroad.

Mom | 10:40 a.m. Feb. 20, 2008

We have a right to defend ourselves against those who would harm us and to help defenseless people in the world. That is what we have done and are doing in the Middle East. If we read the scriptures, we know that we will not have peace on the earth until our Savior returns, as is prophesied. I say thankyou, thankyou to those brave men who put their lives on the line for others, those who have given their lives over centuries to preserve freedom!

Raymond Takashi Swenson | 11:02 a.m. Feb. 20, 2008

I am a 20 year Air Force veteran. Potentially using violence against an innocent civilian can happen in any war, not to mention many police confrontations here at home. The Army and Marines in Iraq have demonstrated remarkable and consistent restraint in their relations with the citizens of Iraq. Those who stray are punished by court-martial.

Fatal casualties in Iraq are low, about 1% of the force. Total deaths of all active duty soldiers are DOWN now from ten years ago, since there were more people being killed then in accidents, in training and in vehicles, than are now killed by hostile fire.

The last year has demonstrated that the situation is improving. Al Quaida's forces in Iraq are losing ground. Pulling out now would be the stupidest thing any Army has ever done. Like Vietnam, it would result in millions of Iraqis becoming refugees in the US overnight. If you think the US is burdened by illegal immigration of Catholics, how about assimilating six million Sunni and Shiite Muslims? Iraq could become a chaos of invasion from Turkey in the north and Iran in the south, with Al Quaida in Baghdad, making Darfur look like a picnic.

MrWhipple | 11:10 a.m. Feb. 20, 2008

As an active, believing Latter-day Saint, I'm ashamed at how many of my fellow Mormons support this war. This is not a war to defend our familes and our freedom -- it was preemptive and aggressive, a reaction of an immature President who had a score to settle with daddy's old adversary and who was egged on by warmongering neoconservative think tanks. The only people benefitting from the Iraq war are the private contractors who supply weapons and materiel. This is what Eisenhower warned us about -- a military/industrial complex that runs our foreign policy.

Meanwhile Bush's war creates the very enemies we have to destroy. Every time we kill an innocent bystander, arrest the head of a family, or injure a child, we make these people hate America forever. Thus the "war on terror" perpetuates itself -- a war without end because WE REFUSE TO END IT.

I love my country. I fear my government.

Wake up, America. Wake up, Latter-day Saints. The Constitution is hanging by a thread.

Jerry Aulenbach, REALTOR�, BEd | 11:49 a.m. Feb. 20, 2008

Brilliant comments, MrWhipple.

Should the article have read "censured", instead of "censored by his superiors"?

-Jerry

Tom | 11:49 a.m. Feb. 20, 2008

I am an LDS Air Force Officer who treats AF and Army troops for PTSD and war related mental health problems. What a terrible price these troops make to leave their families (and often livelihood) to fight a war. Many of them come back asking the question - what did my combat buddies die for? Hard question to answer. I do not like the war or how we got into it. I side with the previous sentiment

"The only people benefitting from the Iraq war are the private contractors who supply weapons and material. This is what Eisenhower warned us about -- a military/industrial complex that runs our foreign policy.

I love my country. I fear my government."

Brian K. Welch | 1:07 p.m. Feb. 20, 2008

All sane humans want peace, but can peace always be had in a world where good and evil are at constant war? The United States and its allies could have had peace with Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, and Fascist Italy, without firing a shot, if the citizens of these free nations had wanted to live in bondage as slaves and victims of tyrants. The Islamofascists will not stop trying to destroy free men and women until they are decisively and totally defeated! Their fanatical motivation is to either convert the entire world to fascistic Islam (a word that means "submission) or kill or enslave anyone who opposes them.

No good man or woman enjoys war, but there are times when just people are "fighting for a better cause", i.e., the defense of liberty, families, and the right to worship God individually as each sees fit. Simply being anti-war at all costs is naive and unwise in the extremely dangerous world we live in today! The kind of peace we ought to strive for comes only by conquering evil and selfishness in our on hearts with God's help.

Tcabin | 1:43 p.m. Feb. 20, 2008

Isn't Freedom of Speech wonderful?

WarriorWill | 1:48 p.m. Feb. 20, 2008

I have had a couple of run-ins with Thompson, who is a native of Logan. I don't have a problem with Mr. Thompson's right to feel how he does about the war, or to speak out about it. The problem that I have had with his entire escapade are his continual claims that "most soldiers" he knows are against the war.

Mr. Thompson was a military journalist who wrote articles for a small newsletter type paper. It was more like a high school newspaper than a real serious publication. He interviewed "thousands" of soldiers in a 1-year tour? That's quite a pace. (5.5 a day for 2000 interviews in a year)

The fact is that there is a not-so-silent minority of soldiers that protest the war. The majority of those who have served are proud of that service and simply go about their lives. It is irksome to have that service questioned.

While I have had some terrible experiences (especially in 2003 when I was part of the push to Baghdad), I have the ability to stand back and see that my own personal bad experiences are not the only factors at work.

Thompson knows how to work the media.

Re: Brian | 1:57 p.m. Feb. 20, 2008

The way to cure the world of the need to fight wars, is by one person at a time living a life of peace. The world will not stop fighting wars "cold turkey" however, as each person lives a life of peace and not conflict humanity will begin to shift to a higher level of consciousness. When humanity recognizes that any issue can be solved peacefully than we will evolve to a higher level where war is obsolete. When individuals and individual countries realize what is best for themselves may not be the best thing for humanity, the world will begin to heal. In every decision we make as a people and a country, we must ask ourselves if what we are doing is benefiting us and the world around us or is it only benefiting us. If the answer is that it is only benefiting us, than that means someone else is losing. We must make decisions that allow only win-win results.

Dave B. | 4:12 p.m. Feb. 20, 2008

As a former Marine I applaud this young man. This war is so wrong on so many levels. How fellow LDS members embrace this war is beyond me.

Raymond Takashi Swenson | 6:03 p.m. Feb. 20, 2008

We are in Iraq, and have an opportunity to help create a nation that is Arab, Muslim, and democratic. If the US could transform a nation that was Asian, with a unique militant religion, whose soldiers were fanatical to the point of suicide--namely, Japan (my birthplace)--there is reason to hope the same can be accomplished in Iraq. Ending Saddam's tyranny and torture of children is sufficient justification.

Remember that Saddam Hussein admitted in an interview before his execution that he intentionally created the impression that he had a secret weapons program--even kicking out UN inspectors--because he feared an attack from Iran. And his false data misled the CIA plus Britain, France and Russia. President Clinton fired a thousand cruise missiles at Baghdad to persuade Saddam to reopen to inspectors. Saddam said he planned to wear out the UN sanctions, which he was close to doing, and then resume his weapons program.

Invading Iraq persuaded Libya and Iran to halt nuclear weapons development threatening the US and Europe. Bush persuaded those nations that the US would not tolerate them having nuclear weapons. There is much less risk today of a terrorist nuke vaporizing Washington, because we invaded Iraq.

RI Reader | 6:37 p.m. Feb. 20, 2008

Add my name to the list of life-time church members, who spent a career in the Air Force (to include SE Asia), and who despise war. I applaud ANY effort to bring our brave troops home from an unneccessary fiasco!

We did NOT go honorably to Iraq; Saddam was NOT our enemy. Osama Bin Laden, the criminal who attacked America and killed Americans on American soil is still at large, and LAUGHING at us from Pakistan - not Iraq!

So to say we need to stay and finish is just wrong! Finish what: our attack of peole who did NOT attack us? Finish our destruction of their way of life to make George Bush feel more like a man? What are we finishing?

If we must send troops to war to die for something, send them to Pakistan to bring Osama Bin Laden to the justice HE deserves. There was no moral or logical reason to have attacked Iraq to begin with!

During my time in the Air Force, our motto was "Peace is Our Profession". We need to remember that as Latter-Day-Saints - we believe in peace.

Iraq Vet | 6:56 p.m. Feb. 20, 2008

Reviewing the anti-Iraq comments I can now understand why forces and support were witheld from Pahoran during the great Book of Mormon conflict against the forces of evil. I would suppose that the anti-war activists of that era used similar arguments expressed here.

If not US, then who | 11:29 p.m. Feb. 20, 2008

Honestly, you only have to watch the history channel to understand why the US had to take out Saddam and his sons...their butchery of the innocent civilians of Iraq...rape and torture...how can you not justify the elimination of that regiem and all his henchman...how can you go to sleep at night thinking the USA took out this evil government and is without honor? LDS or not, this was and is a justified moral war on crimes against humanity...and had to be brought to a stop! Japan had to learn the hard way also, but look at how they've turned out...freedom and democracy rule and friendship between the US and Japan! How will the leaders of the US respond in the judgment when they have to answer to why didn't you act sooner to take out Hitler when he was killing so many Jewish people...why did you abstain from helping my people? We acted to protect and defend those who couldn't defend themselves and help those who needed our help! Bush did the right thing, not the easy thing...by doing nothing and just watching those people die at the hands of Saddam!

MoJules | 11:58 p.m. Feb. 20, 2008

Iraq Vet, I love you!!! I am not this person who delights in war, but there is another point, since this is about Mormon's. In the Book of Mormon, there are many battles that are written about and how they took up arms to defend and how they sometimes had to kill, so why was all of that included? War is not fun, I am sure, and trust me, I am very close to someone that was a gunner in Viet Nam, that was his duty. This is a Christian nation and who hates Christianity more than anything, Satan, so it is no wonder that there are groups of people that hate this country and seek to destroy it. We are taught to honor, obey and sustain the laws of the land, if that law requires those enlisted to go and fight for this country, weather they agree with it or not, that is part of the law of our land. Yes, we as Latter Day Saints believe in peace, but we also believe in protecting ourselves, shame on all of you that are doing to these young men the same thing they did to the Viet Nam vets.

Re: MoJules | 9:10 a.m. Feb. 21, 2008

First of all I respect the men and women who fight for what they believe in. You mention the Book of Mormon and the battles that were written in it. Does it make sense to you that an all loving God (assuming that is who God is to you) would want you to know about men killing other men? What would the purpose of that be? Could it be that those stories are from mans ego mind? Do you also believe that as Americans God is on our side and against the Iraqi fighters? Do believe that God would choose sides to root for and divide His children? Could it be, that there are peaceful solutions to every situation and this is what God would want us use in every situation? I truly believe with all of my heart that unconditional love is what is at God's core being. Judgement, war, gossip, violence etc. contradicts who God is, so the only option is that these traits are of man. To me it is quite simple. If something doesn't focus on love, peace, harmony etc. it is not of God. Have a great day.

Bob Mullins - Logan Utah | 9:16 a.m. Feb. 21, 2008

Okay, after reviewing some of the comments here, I have to say. Mr. Whipple is about as ignorant as they come. He is a bleeding heart liberal that would support Hilary and Bill to his dying day. You would prefer to put your head in the Sand and Act like there are no enemiesï¿½ ...unless we create them. Your ignorance to real world is overwhelming. What kind of naive home were you raised in? You sound like your name should be David Hinckley Jones or something. Although, I'm sure he's not that kind of liberal with Hilary and Bill.

As well, to the bleeding heart liberal that is all upset that the U.S. has 700 (and counting) military bases around the world. Your ignorance of what this world is all about is astounding. Do take some time to meditate further on your lack of experience in "real" life.

I support All U.S. Military bases wherever they may be on the globe. I know their purpose and what we as a nation stand for.

Bob Mullins - Logan Utah | 9:22 a.m. Feb. 21, 2008

As for the Rhode Island reader comment: I Believe in Preemptive Strike where needed. It is necessary in all times, even if Hitler does not attack your homeland first. Your passive attitude is why the wicked are able to rule in the world. As a famous founder of this nation once said, "all that is needed for wickedness to prosper is for good people to do nothing." And, I could care a less that we went after Iraq first, before going to another location to get the extremists to come out. I have noticed that the extremists of 9/11 did come out in force to come against us in Iraq. I would rather battle them there, then over here. It pulled the Extremists into that central region to battle.

Would our presence in Iraq pull the extremists other places? They were going there one way or another.

Bob Mullins - Logan Utah | 9:22 a.m. Feb. 21, 2008

The view is, not being able to see the forest for the trees, on too many comments here, and too many opinions of the bleeding heart liberals. They all, want to bury their heads in the sand, and look at the world through rose colored glasses, and then say with confidence, ï¿½all is well in the world, there is no need to provoke others to kill our people." ï¿½If I leave the bully alone, he wonï¿½t come bother me or my family.ï¿½ The same goes for Chavez. I fully support ï¿½occupyingï¿½ ï¿½hisï¿½ nation.

President Kimball called many people locally, a bunch of ï¿½sleeping giants.ï¿½ When you have the power to support the true cause of freedom, and not some pretentious made up freedom that liberals seem to invent with ease, then you are ï¿½about the Lordï¿½s work.ï¿½

Of late, the U.S. was referred to by its allies as a Hyper Power. I know what its mission is, and what purposes are being brought to bear.

MrWhipple | 12:07 p.m. Feb. 21, 2008

Iraq Vet and MoJules:

The big difference between the Lamanite War recounted in the book of Alma and the Iraq War is that THE LAMANITES INVADED NEPHITE LANDS. The Nephites were fighting a purely defensive battle against an aggressive neighbor.

In Iraq, the tables have been turned. WE are the aggressors. WE invaded their country based on, at best, flawed intelligence. WE are the ones responsible for the deaths of half a million Iraqis and the displacement of 4 million more.

MrWhipple | 12:27 p.m. Feb. 21, 2008

Bob Mullins of Logan Utah:

Are you LDS? Have you read D&C 98? Are you aware of the Lord's condemnation of preemptive attacks, and his requirement that we bear repeated offense BEFORE we go out to battle -- and then only at His command?

Your comments about me attack my character rather than deal with my arguments. For your education, I'm a political conservative and registered Republican. I just don't follow the insane, suicidal neoconservative delusion that has infected the party.

Here's my recommended reading list for you. Please read these important books before spewing your jingoistic politics:

* Blowback, by Chalmers Johnson
* Imperial Hubris, by Michael Scheuer
* The End of America, by Naomi Wolf
* A Nation of Sheep, by Andrew Napolitano

America CAN be a great country, but not as long as we think we're morally superior to everyone else and can enforce our will militarily without causing great anger and violent response.

Re: Bob | 12:29 p.m. Feb. 21, 2008

Of course Bob you get your info from such a reliable source like the news. You seem so angry as if the so called "Bleeding heart liberals" are attacking you personaly. Have you ever stopped to think why so many countries despise us or should we just blow away any country that has a difference of opinion? It is funny to me that you use this example ï¿½If I leave the bully alone, he wonï¿½t come bother me or my family.ï¿½ Are we not the bully in Iraq? Are we not the bully if we occupy Venezuala? Fear is what leads nations to war. In 2003 there was a poll conducted around the world asking people which country is the biggest threat to humanity North Korea or the U.S. (7% North Korea and 85% the U.S.) We live in a bubble and only hear what the media chooses to share with us. Instead of premptively attacking countries that may or may not harm us, why don't we continue using diplomacy no matter how long it takes instead of killing each other? More people around the world hate us more now than they did before the war.

LDS in TN | 9:07 a.m. Feb. 23, 2008

I find it interesting that anyone would associate anything or anyone having to do with the news as "bleeding heart liberals" (what a tired phrase from another era!). Anyone who watches the news with an open mind will notice that the majority of the media is actually in support of Mr. Bush's war. And why not? This isn't the VietNam era when people were unafraid to speak out. If the media comes out in open defiance they will probably lose their corporate sponsorship and have to find a new job.

shellie | 12:18 p.m. Feb. 25, 2008

If you really want to know where active duty miltary stands, ask yourself why Ron Paul has recieved more campaign contributions than all other candidates COMBINED, from active duty military. This war against Iraq was pre-emptive. Period! You will find no allowance for this in the Book of Mormon- find out how God told the Nephites they could prevail against the Gadianton Robbers. Might be interesting... Also, for you who think USA just wants to spread freedom and democracy- We just gave 10 billion dollars to Musharaf of Pakistan. He just happens to be a military dictator who overthrew a "democratically" elected government. By the way, since this country is bankrupt, we had to borrow that 10 billion dollars from China. I try to remember Pres. Bensons warnings about secret combinations in the last days. As members of God's church, we might want to be about finding truth, and doing what we can to save our God-given constitution. Following the party line is going to destroy our country.

Bob Mullins - Logan Utah | 7:19 a.m. Feb. 28, 2008

Mr. Whipple: obviously afraid to use your real name and present who you are.

In any case, the scriptures are a guide, the Spirit guides even further; if this were not the case, Nephi never would have taken Labanï¿½s life. Your interpretation of the "letter of the law" is not only untimely but incorrect in this instance.

For you to presume we should not have taken Iraq in inconsistent with what was needed at the time, and from a (narrow) point of view as yourself, not having all the cards on the table, and certainly - your not - being the President at the time of the Offensive, you have judged without all of the facts of the situation in your favor.

For you to presume that you had all the facts would mean You were in the Presidents Cabinet at the time of the Offensive. For you to assume you Now have all of the facts in relation to the Event would be preposterous, your presuming that you now have All of the Cards and All of the facts of the situation, in some hind site 20/20 interpretation of what you see before you, and nothing else.

Bob Mullins - Logan Utah | 7:20 a.m. Feb. 28, 2008

I was 100% in favor of the war to Iraq. Just because people get killed in a war, does not mean you should never have started a defensive or offensive posture. At least you can now know where the term (bleeding) heart liberal comes from.

I have 14 years of military service. In any event, I joined the LDS Church while on active duty with the U.S. Military.

Iï¿½m fairly sure My Education outweighs yours by Many Fold. In any event (whether it does or not), you are relying on Only book knowledge to get you through a 9/11 Event that you were not in charge of taking Offensive Action against, as well as the Narrow view of a Journalism (which is not conservative).

Bob Mullins - Logan Utah | 7:21 a.m. Feb. 28, 2008

Pulling the terror cells to Iraq for a war on That Soil was a brilliant move. If Obama does not see that in a Military Strategic Operation, then so be it. That is where they needed to be, not a continued round on American Soil, with American Infrastructure being affected. The amount of money that would have been lost, had we allowed the Defensive Posture to continue to occur (like Clinton would have done) on American Soil, would have outweighed the Cost of this Current War as well as the Cost in Lives on American Soil.

Bob Mullins - Logan Utah | 7:22 a.m. Feb. 28, 2008

Your railings in the tone of Anger remove you from a complete Spiritual perspective of the situation. You are the one thatï¿½s letting the Media dictate what You should be thinking of the Event and the War in Iraq.

An independent journalist will only see a Narrow portion of the Event. He will not see the politics (and especially in this case) that brought the Event to bear in Iraq. There is much more Military Action needed on Other Soil as we speak, that I Fully Support 100%, even when others, like yourself will never be able to have an opportunity to see a Greater Picture, or being able to see the Forest for the Trees.

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