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Romney too conservative | 2:03 p.m. Feb. 8, 2008
Ultra-Conservatives like Romney believe in a two-tiered morality for society
� one for the
�masses� and one for the
�elites� � which,
conveniently enough, always seem to include themselves!
There�s nothing they like better than to sit around on
their not-inconsiderable behinds and tell other people to go out and fight and
die in wars that they would not for a second get personally involved in.
Because, you see, it�s good for the 'little
people'. Builds character and backbone. And war also presents many fine
punditry and scholarly opportunities for themselves, as well as marvelous
opportunities to brush aside those inconvenient and pesky notions of
�democracy� and
�civil rights� that the little people
insist on yammering about. Not to mention that the warmongering (which they have
no need to physically participate in, thank you!) is their method of choice to
establish the United States as the lone superpower in the world, with the rest
of the world our cowering subjects.
Blaming Anti Mormons? | 2:13 p.m. Feb. 8, 2008
Let me first say I voted for Mitt here in CT. I think he's the best option
to run our nation. But I think it's funny that people are blaming
anti-mormons for the loss. It might be true. But it's hypocritical to say
you shouldn't vote for someone based on religion when most all of
y'all did just that. Didn't Mitt end up with 90% of the vote in Utah?
So how many people only voted for him BECAUSE he was a Mormon?
The reason he lost is because Huckleberry stayed in the race; and independent moderates flocked away from Hillary towards Mcain. Unfortunately Huck and Mcain were working together against Mitt. Welcome to politics. Either way; the nation is so sick of Bush that a Dem is bound to win this go around. Mitt will have a better chance in 2012.
The reason he lost is because Huckleberry stayed in the race; and independent moderates flocked away from Hillary towards Mcain. Unfortunately Huck and Mcain were working together against Mitt. Welcome to politics. Either way; the nation is so sick of Bush that a Dem is bound to win this go around. Mitt will have a better chance in 2012.
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Laos (Asia) | 2:28 p.m. Feb. 8, 2008
People change their point of views from time to time. Sure it seems the right
thing at the time and people voted for him. Now the time has changed, so Mitt
changed his point of views, what's wrong with that? Tell me that you never
had changed your point of views in your life time. Mitt did it, so have I. I
have changed my point of vienws many time in my life.
Whether in time of peace of in time of war, we need our economy to run smoothly. Why can't we have someone that had the experience to run the economy? Why do we want to vote for a POW to run a country? I thought we were not voting for Pastor in chief, but a commander in chief. Why can't we vote for someone that had a job. Someone that we in the private sector and made his own money?
Most politition made money from people that gave it to them. Mitt used most of his own money for the compaign. Can other runners say that? LDS "Priest" dont make money when they teach. They make their own money.
Whether in time of peace of in time of war, we need our economy to run smoothly. Why can't we have someone that had the experience to run the economy? Why do we want to vote for a POW to run a country? I thought we were not voting for Pastor in chief, but a commander in chief. Why can't we vote for someone that had a job. Someone that we in the private sector and made his own money?
Most politition made money from people that gave it to them. Mitt used most of his own money for the compaign. Can other runners say that? LDS "Priest" dont make money when they teach. They make their own money.
to the Apologists: | 2:30 p.m. Feb. 8, 2008
>>What no one seems to factor into Romney's fight with Huckabee that
ultimately cost him the run is the history between Romney's culture/faith
and Huckabee's culture/faith. >>
and
>>The reason he lost is because Huckleberry stayed in the race; >>
Bull. McCain collected TWICE as many votes, and TWICE as many delegates than Huckabee and Mitt COMBINED.
Tell me again how Huckabee divided the vote, thus causing Mitt to lose?
We (collective we, the U.S.) does NOT want Mitt Romney near the white house.
and
>>The reason he lost is because Huckleberry stayed in the race; >>
Bull. McCain collected TWICE as many votes, and TWICE as many delegates than Huckabee and Mitt COMBINED.
Tell me again how Huckabee divided the vote, thus causing Mitt to lose?
We (collective we, the U.S.) does NOT want Mitt Romney near the white house.
One Thing's For Sure | 2:48 p.m. Feb. 8, 2008
With all the ludicrous posts attacking Mitt, one thing's for sure....you
can sure tell who the fools are.
I can't prove it but I suspect that even with a lot of non-LDS people living in Utah today that a lot of these posters here are anti-Mormons from out of state.
Please, if you fall in that category, just be quiet and leave us in peace. Remember, YOUR KIND kicked us out of New York, then Ohio, then Missouri, and finally Illinois so why do you keep "following us"? We left to come to the Rocky Mountains to live in peace and we'd like to keep it that way. So, if all you've got to offer is more anger and hatred of what you don't understand and don't even want to try to understand, stay home.
I can't prove it but I suspect that even with a lot of non-LDS people living in Utah today that a lot of these posters here are anti-Mormons from out of state.
Please, if you fall in that category, just be quiet and leave us in peace. Remember, YOUR KIND kicked us out of New York, then Ohio, then Missouri, and finally Illinois so why do you keep "following us"? We left to come to the Rocky Mountains to live in peace and we'd like to keep it that way. So, if all you've got to offer is more anger and hatred of what you don't understand and don't even want to try to understand, stay home.
West Jordan Pete | 2:53 p.m. Feb. 8, 2008
I was for Mitt before I was against him.
Wayne Perry | 2:50 p.m. Feb. 8, 2008
We shall all have to wait and see what Mr. Romney will do the next few years.
The McCain administration would only give him a non-job. Obama Hillary would be
happy to appoint him to one of the many futile gestures, such as mid-east peace
negotiator.
Running against Ted Kennedy would simply be another failure. Romney could not have gotten himself re-elected as governor, he won't make it as a second attempt senator.
I suggest a TV talk show, like some news commentator.
Keeps his face in the media. perhaps Murdoch could find a spot for him.
Running against Ted Kennedy would simply be another failure. Romney could not have gotten himself re-elected as governor, he won't make it as a second attempt senator.
I suggest a TV talk show, like some news commentator.
Keeps his face in the media. perhaps Murdoch could find a spot for him.
MiniMitt | 3:18 p.m. Feb. 8, 2008
People in Utah voted for Mitt Romney because he's Mormon. Anyone who says
different is a liar. Well, the Republican voters have spoken, and they saw
Romney for what he is. No need to go into that, because we all know what Romney
is.
talent scout | 3:21 p.m. Feb. 8, 2008
I think Wayne Perry may be on to something.
Perhaps Mitt Romney can relocate to Utah, be closer to the Temple, and with the right talent agent, could become the new Super-Dell.
Perhaps Mitt Romney can relocate to Utah, be closer to the Temple, and with the right talent agent, could become the new Super-Dell.
Survived the 60s | 3:18 p.m. Feb. 8, 2008
One time I voted for a Republican - his nickname was Tricky Dick - now my choice
is McCain or Huckabee. McCain - blah blah blah about his military background -
the draft was abolished in 1973 so we cannot continue to place military service
as an important factor when selecting our president. But please remember McCain
was fifth from the bottom of his class at the US Naval Academy, and being a POW
we all know does not qualify anyone to have any special knowledge of foreign
policy.
I have a fear of McCain sitting in a meeting with foreign powers and then we get to see that famous temper - holy smokes!
Yes Mitt flip-flopped on some issues - abortion - doesn't matter it is legal - get over it. Gays - it's a state issue. Immigration - I'd take Mitt's stand on this over Mac or the Preacher's anyday.
I have a fear of McCain sitting in a meeting with foreign powers and then we get to see that famous temper - holy smokes!
Yes Mitt flip-flopped on some issues - abortion - doesn't matter it is legal - get over it. Gays - it's a state issue. Immigration - I'd take Mitt's stand on this over Mac or the Preacher's anyday.
To Republicans Everywhere | 3:31 p.m. Feb. 8, 2008
Some of you have said that you didn't support Mitt until only recently
because you were unfamiliar with him. If you thought his CPAC speech was great,
I encourage you to Google or u-Tube his "Faith In America" speech that
he gave December 6th 2007 in TX.
Don't let the liberal media or the Mitt-haters fool you, his 18 minute speech portrays the finest of American values. It is an absolute must-watch for any American who loves their country.
Mitt 2012!!!
Don't let the liberal media or the Mitt-haters fool you, his 18 minute speech portrays the finest of American values. It is an absolute must-watch for any American who loves their country.
Mitt 2012!!!
Hey "RI Member" | 3:47 p.m. Feb. 8, 2008
You say you are a Democrat LDS member who espouses unconditional love and
charity and a life lived without guile. Sounds great to me! Captain Moroni was
that kind of a person, wouldn't you agree? The Book of Mormon even says
that if all people were as righteous as he was that the very gates of Hell would
have been shaken.
However, have you forgotten that Captain Moroni also was a fearless warrior who no doubt personally killed many, many men in the defense of his country and their freedoms?
Please understand I'm not trying to glorify war, but I am trying to point out that being like Christ and bravely defending one's country are not mutually exclusive.
Mitt didn't slam YOU in his CPAC speech yesterday; he slammed Obama and Hillary. Why? Because they've pledged to withdraw our troops likely long BEFORE we've helped Iraq achieve peace and stability. Tell me, are we being Christ-like if we leave them in a position to get slaughtered? Like it or not, many Democrats HAVE adopted the foolish idea that if you just "love someone enough" they'll love you back.
That didn't work for Heavenly Father either....
However, have you forgotten that Captain Moroni also was a fearless warrior who no doubt personally killed many, many men in the defense of his country and their freedoms?
Please understand I'm not trying to glorify war, but I am trying to point out that being like Christ and bravely defending one's country are not mutually exclusive.
Mitt didn't slam YOU in his CPAC speech yesterday; he slammed Obama and Hillary. Why? Because they've pledged to withdraw our troops likely long BEFORE we've helped Iraq achieve peace and stability. Tell me, are we being Christ-like if we leave them in a position to get slaughtered? Like it or not, many Democrats HAVE adopted the foolish idea that if you just "love someone enough" they'll love you back.
That didn't work for Heavenly Father either....
St. George | 3:55 p.m. Feb. 8, 2008
GOP needs to be humbled no more taking Utah, Nevada, Idaho for granted ---
EVERYONE VOTE HILLARY!
Dont be fooled as Nevada was by Bush and the Yucca Mountain, if Nevada would have went to Gore Bush would not be President. They will lie once again to get something from us, then turn their backs on us again.
Dont be fooled as Nevada was by Bush and the Yucca Mountain, if Nevada would have went to Gore Bush would not be President. They will lie once again to get something from us, then turn their backs on us again.
marvin | 3:59 p.m. Feb. 8, 2008
Congrats to Mitt for adding a voice and a choice but the American voters have
spoken and I guess they have to live with their vote and prepare for the
consequences
OK, here it is... | 4:03 p.m. Feb. 8, 2008
I've read how some of you Democrats insist the "nasty
Republicans" will try to win the Presidency based on a fear of terrorist
attacks while you claim that Obama or Hillary will keep us all safe.
So here's my prediction: if Hillary or Obama wins, the U.S. will suffer some kind of terrorist attack on our own soil during their presidency. I hope I'm wrong but I doubt it. If Hillary or Obama wins, we pull out of Iraq before they're ready to defend themselves. Iraqi citizens (rightfully) hate us even more, our international reputation takes a massive tumble, terrorists around the world are emboldened because our government would have beat a hasty retreat.
Just what, exactly, would keep the terrorists from attacking us? They've already done it once....
So here's my prediction: if Hillary or Obama wins, the U.S. will suffer some kind of terrorist attack on our own soil during their presidency. I hope I'm wrong but I doubt it. If Hillary or Obama wins, we pull out of Iraq before they're ready to defend themselves. Iraqi citizens (rightfully) hate us even more, our international reputation takes a massive tumble, terrorists around the world are emboldened because our government would have beat a hasty retreat.
Just what, exactly, would keep the terrorists from attacking us? They've already done it once....
FYI | 4:39 p.m. Feb. 8, 2008
Once I decided to vote for a Democrat by the name of Jimmy Carter. After the
first couple of years of Carter in office interest rates and inflation climbed
to double digits. Mortgage rates climbed to 15%. The next Democratic
President, Bill Clinton (who I did not vote for) had a majority GOP House and
Senate to somewhat keep him in line. Having a GOP buffer in the House and/or
Senate many not be the case this time around.
If I were sure that the GOP would win back control of the House or Senate, I might be willing to hold my vote for McCain or even vote for a Democrat. If GOP control of the House or Senate is not an extreme real possibility, I may be one of those holding my nose and breathe while voting for McCain. For those States with Democratic Senators and Representatives running, you need to bring in new blood in the form of Republican Party who will be devoted to holding down government spending and keeping the tax cuts. If Hillary or Obama win the presidency with Democratic control of the House and Senate we could be in for a miserable 4 years.
If I were sure that the GOP would win back control of the House or Senate, I might be willing to hold my vote for McCain or even vote for a Democrat. If GOP control of the House or Senate is not an extreme real possibility, I may be one of those holding my nose and breathe while voting for McCain. For those States with Democratic Senators and Representatives running, you need to bring in new blood in the form of Republican Party who will be devoted to holding down government spending and keeping the tax cuts. If Hillary or Obama win the presidency with Democratic control of the House and Senate we could be in for a miserable 4 years.
"Delegate Confused" | 4:56 p.m. Feb. 8, 2008
This is for the person who indignantly refutes the idea that Huckabee staying in
the race cost Mitt the nomination because he says that McCain won twice as many
votes as either Romney or Huckabee.
OK, we'll use simple math to explain the concept: let's suppose that for every 100 voters McCain got 35 of them, Romney got 30, Huckabee got 25 and Ron Paul got 10. However, if Huckabee would have dropped out, let's say McCain gets 40 (he picks up some support from Huckabee), Romney gets 45 (he picks up some of Huckabee's supporters too) and Ron Paul gets 15. Now it's Romney who has the majority.
The reason you say that "McCain has more than twice the (delegate) votes of Romney or Huckabee" is because so many states that McCain won are "winner take all". Just because won Florida or Arizona certainly doesn't mean that everyone in those states voted for him.
Who knows how the percentages would have worked out, but there's no doubt that w/o Huckabee Mitt, at the VERY worst, would be nipping at McCain's heels right now. If Guliani hadn't dropped out, Romney would be the front-runner for sure.
OK, we'll use simple math to explain the concept: let's suppose that for every 100 voters McCain got 35 of them, Romney got 30, Huckabee got 25 and Ron Paul got 10. However, if Huckabee would have dropped out, let's say McCain gets 40 (he picks up some support from Huckabee), Romney gets 45 (he picks up some of Huckabee's supporters too) and Ron Paul gets 15. Now it's Romney who has the majority.
The reason you say that "McCain has more than twice the (delegate) votes of Romney or Huckabee" is because so many states that McCain won are "winner take all". Just because won Florida or Arizona certainly doesn't mean that everyone in those states voted for him.
Who knows how the percentages would have worked out, but there's no doubt that w/o Huckabee Mitt, at the VERY worst, would be nipping at McCain's heels right now. If Guliani hadn't dropped out, Romney would be the front-runner for sure.
Reality 101 | 5:04 p.m. Feb. 8, 2008
Memo to those who who think it's just LDS conservatives who are fretting
over Mitt's departure:
Check the talk shows and other conservative media around the nation and what do you find: Millions of non-LDS conservatives bemoaning Mitt's departure, admiring him for putting country above self, basically anointing him as the presumptive conservative front runner in 2012 if he decides to run.
One major result of the whole experience of Romney's candidacy is this: It mainstreamed the LDS faith a little more into American culture. Let that reality sink in, my dear anti M's,
Check the talk shows and other conservative media around the nation and what do you find: Millions of non-LDS conservatives bemoaning Mitt's departure, admiring him for putting country above self, basically anointing him as the presumptive conservative front runner in 2012 if he decides to run.
One major result of the whole experience of Romney's candidacy is this: It mainstreamed the LDS faith a little more into American culture. Let that reality sink in, my dear anti M's,
Any Chance Of This? | 5:20 p.m. Feb. 8, 2008
What are the odds that McCain will ask Romney to be his VP? I know they
can't stand each other but I think that Mitt is far more willing to forgive
than McCain. Even though McCain hid his contempt of Romney about as well as a
used wet paper sack, there's no doubt McCain really respects Mitt's
abilities...his public graciousness and speaking abilities, his education and
business success, his government accomplishments, and his hard-hitting
"issues-related" campaign.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that McCain asking Romney would immediately go a long way torward unifying the GOP, something that McCain might be willing to do (I think) because he wants the White House so bad. I honestly think McCain breathed an enormous sigh of relief when Romney suspended his campaign because he truly feared Romney winning juuuuust enough delegates to keep him from winning the nomination outright and possibly even winning the nomination at the GOP national convention as momentum continued to go Romney's direction.
McCain needs a right-wing Republican who commands great respect. Huckabee? Maybe, but his popularity is only in the south. Guliani? Too liberal. Thompson? Right-wing but lost respect with a meandering campaign.
Thoughts?
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that McCain asking Romney would immediately go a long way torward unifying the GOP, something that McCain might be willing to do (I think) because he wants the White House so bad. I honestly think McCain breathed an enormous sigh of relief when Romney suspended his campaign because he truly feared Romney winning juuuuust enough delegates to keep him from winning the nomination outright and possibly even winning the nomination at the GOP national convention as momentum continued to go Romney's direction.
McCain needs a right-wing Republican who commands great respect. Huckabee? Maybe, but his popularity is only in the south. Guliani? Too liberal. Thompson? Right-wing but lost respect with a meandering campaign.
Thoughts?
RE;"Delegate Confused" | 6:50 p.m. Feb. 8, 2008
I'm not a fan of Romney or Huckabee, but come on. Why should Huckabee have
to drop out just to make the job easier for Romney. You're right he
probably doesn't like Huckabee but he's also looking out for himself
and his own political career. He owes nothing to Romney in that respect.
Tim | 7:29 p.m. Feb. 8, 2008
I am disappointed in the graft in both the republican and democratic parties. I
might have voted for Mitt, but I will definitiely vote independent now. Nothing
changes for good with the monopoly hold that the two reigning parties have. We
should vote for candidates and not parties anyway.
Victoria Chang | 12:32 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
Watch what Mitt did and not what Mitt said. He is brilliant. I am sorry that
America doesn't deserve Mitt. He is a true conservative and a great leader.
I am Taiwanese living outside of America, I see even more clearly than you do.
Wake up Americans, are you telling me that you are stupid enough not to
recognize an excellent leader like Mitt Romney? He is more perfect in every way
than any of the candidates in both party. He is the pride of America. I hope
Mitt will come back in 4 years to give America one more chance. If America is
strong, the whole world would benefit from it. I hope America will continue to
be the hope of the earth.
ATTN: Victoria Chang | 12:42 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
America clearly does not agree with you.
Victoria Chang | 5:33 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
The CNN poll shows that Obama leads McCain by 7 points. I have been thinking,
compare to Obama's drug using in his earlier life, Mitt Romney is much more
perfect. Romney is Mr. Almost Perfect. What if Mitt ever smoked a cigarette or
drank a glass of beer in his life? That would be a big, shocking news. Why you
Americans are so picky about Mitt and so tolerant with Obama? Are you saying
Obama is better than Mitt just because his skin color is black? I can't get
any message out of Obama's campaign except the " word " chang.
Sure, his skin color is black, it is obvious very different from the usual
Caucasian presidents' skin complexion,but does that make him the symbol of
change? He is inexperienced. He is just an ordinary black kid. You Americans are
so shallow. To elect a good president for your country is serious. Be aware!
This is no beauty contest.
Better Years | 3:07 p.m. Feb. 9, 2008
All I can say is that this country is not better off than it was eight years
ago. Say what you want about the Clinton administration, but those were good
years for this country and the last eight have been bad ones. The Republicans,
under Reagan and now Bush shoot government spending through the roof and then
talk about fiscal responsibility. Looking at the track record of the two parties
over the past decade or so, I'll take the Demos every time (and
they're awful too).
Re: the reason | 11:37 p.m. Feb. 9, 2008
Romney is a great speaker and I like his ideals. I think very highly of a lot of
what he's said about the constitution among other things. To be honest
though, I worry a little that he works too hard to please voters, and say what
he wants them to hear. McCain generally seems to say what he thinks, but has,
unfortunately, a temper. If I believed Romney could do what he promises,
he'd have my support. I still need to be convinced of his sincerity.
In response to 'the reason' who stated:
"People would trust mormons more if they would quit calling the religion Christian and simply call it mormonism. The Bible spells it out clearly (first four books of the NT)."
I'm confused. Could you elaborate? Mormons believe and read the bible, OT and NT (including Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John), and believe Christ is their savior. Christ is the central focus of the church.
In response to 'the reason' who stated:
"People would trust mormons more if they would quit calling the religion Christian and simply call it mormonism. The Bible spells it out clearly (first four books of the NT)."
I'm confused. Could you elaborate? Mormons believe and read the bible, OT and NT (including Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John), and believe Christ is their savior. Christ is the central focus of the church.
russ | 9:56 a.m. Feb. 10, 2008
Hillary and Obama have qualifications. That is obvious. But for the record,
consider college graduates, then on to very respectable law schools, and being
Senators, and becoming movers and shakers to help out all of society.
Do they have a blood lust for 100 more years of war in Iraq like McCain talked about? No, probably not. Who does? Do they say they do not understand economics No. McCain said he didn't understand economics. Gracious: take Econ 101 on line if you have to.
In order to understand the world, and increase one's knowledge, one has to read, think, think, read, read widely, think some more, listen, listen, truly listen to what is being said. Then comment.
Listen to the feedback. Change when obviously wrong.
One of the problems Bush has with the law and the Constitution and our freedoms is... he never went to law school. He has no clue about basic rights. None. Never took Constitutional Law. He is probably even now his minions are reading this email because.. well because he is ignorant, scared, and spending our best in two wars without end. Our very best are dying.
Obama and Hillary offer a change.
Thank goodness.
Do they have a blood lust for 100 more years of war in Iraq like McCain talked about? No, probably not. Who does? Do they say they do not understand economics No. McCain said he didn't understand economics. Gracious: take Econ 101 on line if you have to.
In order to understand the world, and increase one's knowledge, one has to read, think, think, read, read widely, think some more, listen, listen, truly listen to what is being said. Then comment.
Listen to the feedback. Change when obviously wrong.
One of the problems Bush has with the law and the Constitution and our freedoms is... he never went to law school. He has no clue about basic rights. None. Never took Constitutional Law. He is probably even now his minions are reading this email because.. well because he is ignorant, scared, and spending our best in two wars without end. Our very best are dying.
Obama and Hillary offer a change.
Thank goodness.
Ah, the bitterness.... | 10:34 a.m. Feb. 11, 2008
It's interesting seeing the bitterness of the Republicans! You know that a
Democrat will be in office in 2008! So now you take jabs to try and make
yourselves feel better. Also you try and speculate about 2012 already. So sad
for you, but happy we are going on to better things.
From,
A Happy Democrat
From,
A Happy Democrat
Anonymous | 1:11 p.m. Feb. 12, 2008
Well put Ah, the bitterness ... 10:34!
These people are refusing all help.
Know one can make them happy but themselves.
Another (ecstatically) Happy Democrat!
These people are refusing all help.
Know one can make them happy but themselves.
Another (ecstatically) Happy Democrat!
Anonymous | 1:19 a.m. Feb. 13, 2008
And I am yet another ecstatically happy Democrat. The conservatives got their
chance and it is not pretty. They are our best advertisment.
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