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Re;The McCain Dissaster | 11:04 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
All those issues that McCain supports are the reasons I voted for him. Be
realistic CONSERVATIVES DO NOT get things DONE in congress. We need McCain who
is a moderate.
Bleak | 11:05 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
"The Republican Party will now implode...10,9,8.." Yeah, ain't
that the truth. The conservative movement is in the political wilderness. Hey
Republican party. Have any of you ever hear of 'divide and conquer'?
That's what just happened here. "I'm voting for him because
he's old like me." "I'm voting for him because he's a
Christian like me!" "I just want some bipartisanship." Great! I
just want the government out of our business. I don't want it to do
ANYTHING for me. Don't try to buy my vote with a piddly rebate check.
Don't give me persciption drugs. Do what the Constitution tells you to and
leave the rest of us alone. We are not children. We're the people. Live
free or die!
ProportionalVotingAnyone? | 11:05 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
How do you Utah Republicans like the winner-take-all electoral method now? ;-)
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BASEBALL BAT | 11:01 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
GO MITT!
AZ LDS with McCain | 11:12 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
Most of you here are a bunch of looosers! McCain is the man. I am a LDS, like
Rommney and I don't like his stance on immigration because he is NOT
following the LDS General Authorities of being more HUMAN and COMPASSIONATED on
IMMIGRATION. It's a shame that McCain who is NOT a LDS is following our
leaders advice.
What A shame! I am following our leaders advice TO VOTE for the PERSON NOT the party. Who cares if McCain is NOT a true Republican. Neither Republicans or Democrats are perfect, all of the candidates are human beings and McCain is the one who is following our church leaders recommendations on most issues.
I am Ashame of brother Rommney!
What A shame! I am following our leaders advice TO VOTE for the PERSON NOT the party. Who cares if McCain is NOT a true Republican. Neither Republicans or Democrats are perfect, all of the candidates are human beings and McCain is the one who is following our church leaders recommendations on most issues.
I am Ashame of brother Rommney!
Enough already | 11:17 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
I wish we could see inside these presidential candidates hearts and minds. Which
one lies less? Which one actually cares more? Which one does America need
most? Who can actually get it done? Unfortunately, all too many of us voters
fall prey to the pandering. Some people believe anything, and I am not talking
about the locals.
Unbelievable | 11:11 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
Wake up call to all of you democrats. Obama is a very smooth, classy guy who
talks a good talk and stirs the emotions of 'hope'. But you need to
look very closely at what he is saying. He's not just a liberal...he's
a communist. If you understood what communism is, you'd see that. Hillary
isn't any better. This system has failed everywhere it has been tried. It
may sound good to tax the rich but the result will be to collapse the economy.
The "sheeple" will get what they deserve.
Betsy | 11:15 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
I think this country needs to be humbled with Hilary. By that time they will
have to time to reflect on their folly of supporting McCain or Huckabee maybe
they realize by 2012 they need someone who gets it. By the time maybe Huckabee
will be lost in the Ozarks and taking John McCain with him
Huck is best! | 11:24 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
Mitt should drop out of the race so that he won't split the vote of
conservatives and someone will have a chance to beat that demo-in-repub clothing
McCain!
Romney is OVER. | 11:39 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
Romney = George Bush with better hair.
Tom | 11:59 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
I prayed that the best candidate for our country would win the republican
nomination. It appears that if the trend continues, my prayer was answered.
Thank you Lord.
Thank you Lord.
Anonymous | 12:21 a.m. Feb. 6, 2008
Quoting another poster here:
"When one says they are against "gay rights," what does that mean exactly? Does it mean that gay people, most likely genetically chosen, have no rights under this thing, this short paper called the Constitution?"
My thoughts:
If being gay was genetic, it would not be nearly as common as it is now, because hardly anyone with the trait would be breeding!
If it is biological (which I don't believe it is), then it is a biological error, kind of like cancer or a mental illness. It would be a mental-emotional illness that should be treated.
"When one says they are against "gay rights," what does that mean exactly? Does it mean that gay people, most likely genetically chosen, have no rights under this thing, this short paper called the Constitution?"
My thoughts:
If being gay was genetic, it would not be nearly as common as it is now, because hardly anyone with the trait would be breeding!
If it is biological (which I don't believe it is), then it is a biological error, kind of like cancer or a mental illness. It would be a mental-emotional illness that should be treated.
A conservative, not a republican | 12:39 a.m. Feb. 6, 2008
Good luck Republicans winning the general election without conservative support.
The conservative wing has given this party some of its greatest leaders,
stongest support and profound victories.
But we've been thrown aside in the primaries, by a good 'ol boy network, backroom deals, a left-leaning press and an establishment that is protecting itself by keeping "one of their own" in power.
NOW that McCain has won, the establishement will try and win us conservatives back. Too late. You are on your own. You think we will rally around McCain to avoid Hillary. To be honest I don't know what is worse, a liberal in conservative clothing, or a self-confessed liberal.
Maybe its just the disappointment of the moment, but I don't see conservatives falling for it and handing over the party of Reagan to the liberal wing.
It is a sad day. The people have been duped.
But we've been thrown aside in the primaries, by a good 'ol boy network, backroom deals, a left-leaning press and an establishment that is protecting itself by keeping "one of their own" in power.
NOW that McCain has won, the establishement will try and win us conservatives back. Too late. You are on your own. You think we will rally around McCain to avoid Hillary. To be honest I don't know what is worse, a liberal in conservative clothing, or a self-confessed liberal.
Maybe its just the disappointment of the moment, but I don't see conservatives falling for it and handing over the party of Reagan to the liberal wing.
It is a sad day. The people have been duped.
California voter | 12:50 a.m. Feb. 6, 2008
I know many republicans who would rather not vote than vote for McCain. This
November, I predict that the democrats will win by a landslide due to lack of
support for McCain. The election won't even be close.
By the way, reading the comments, some people on this board make me laugh with their macho attitude of "I'm a liberal mormon, look at me! Everybody is so awed at my existence!" Who cares about you, get over yourself. I live in CA too and I'm independent party and would vote libertarian if there was a candidate that had a reasonable chance at the white house. So what! That being said, Romney is definitely better than the other republicans except for Ron Paul. By the way, this has nothing to do with Mormonism. People just may just be voting for Romney because they think that he is the best candidate and not because he is Mormon. Let's give them the benefit of the doubt.
By the way, reading the comments, some people on this board make me laugh with their macho attitude of "I'm a liberal mormon, look at me! Everybody is so awed at my existence!" Who cares about you, get over yourself. I live in CA too and I'm independent party and would vote libertarian if there was a candidate that had a reasonable chance at the white house. So what! That being said, Romney is definitely better than the other republicans except for Ron Paul. By the way, this has nothing to do with Mormonism. People just may just be voting for Romney because they think that he is the best candidate and not because he is Mormon. Let's give them the benefit of the doubt.
Sub-Odeon | 12:46 a.m. Feb. 6, 2008
Ahhh, our wonderful southern friends, the Evangelicals.
Couldn't bring themselves to vote for the devilish cult Mormon, I see.
That's just grand. The most conservative, solid guy in the Republican primaries, and evangelicals sink him on account of religious fear.
Please, someone, next time I feel the urge to apologize for anything evangelical in nature, when I am amidst my Democrat and liberal friends, smack me.
I hope the evangelicals enjoy all four (could be eight?) years of secular Democratic rule they're now earning for themselves.
Meanwhile, Mitt is hoss. Thank you for standing up, Mr. Romney.
Perhaps when the nation has had enough of the Democrats, and the evangelicals have been properly humbled, you will return and take another shot? 2012 is not far off. Nor is 2016. We may very well need you.
Couldn't bring themselves to vote for the devilish cult Mormon, I see.
That's just grand. The most conservative, solid guy in the Republican primaries, and evangelicals sink him on account of religious fear.
Please, someone, next time I feel the urge to apologize for anything evangelical in nature, when I am amidst my Democrat and liberal friends, smack me.
I hope the evangelicals enjoy all four (could be eight?) years of secular Democratic rule they're now earning for themselves.
Meanwhile, Mitt is hoss. Thank you for standing up, Mr. Romney.
Perhaps when the nation has had enough of the Democrats, and the evangelicals have been properly humbled, you will return and take another shot? 2012 is not far off. Nor is 2016. We may very well need you.
Mule | 3:32 a.m. Feb. 6, 2008
Two things that I find humorous amongst these messages:
"Flip Romney is conservative, John McCain is not!"
It wasn't so long ago that Multiple Choice Mitt was supporting rights for homosexuals, abortion on demand, 'not-in-line with the NRA', and 'not a supporter of Reagan'. Suddenly he is 'a lifelong hunter', abortion foe, and since August, a 'lifetime member of the NRA'. Hilarious! And he's the 'real conservative'!? Are you daft? If being caught in lies is 'conservative', he is the clear winner. And...
"Mike Huckabee...southerners....Baptists...bigots..."
So when Willard takes Utah, which happens to be majority Mormon, that isn't bigotry, it is something else? Can you honestly parse this in your head and clearly call others bigots simply for voting their convictions? Not hilarious, but pathetic and sad. Grow up. Please. From the exit polls, it appears that Evangelicals were split evenly amongst Willard, Mike and John. Where is the bigotry? Sorry, carry on. Assume your mantle of victimhood.
"Flip Romney is conservative, John McCain is not!"
It wasn't so long ago that Multiple Choice Mitt was supporting rights for homosexuals, abortion on demand, 'not-in-line with the NRA', and 'not a supporter of Reagan'. Suddenly he is 'a lifelong hunter', abortion foe, and since August, a 'lifetime member of the NRA'. Hilarious! And he's the 'real conservative'!? Are you daft? If being caught in lies is 'conservative', he is the clear winner. And...
"Mike Huckabee...southerners....Baptists...bigots..."
So when Willard takes Utah, which happens to be majority Mormon, that isn't bigotry, it is something else? Can you honestly parse this in your head and clearly call others bigots simply for voting their convictions? Not hilarious, but pathetic and sad. Grow up. Please. From the exit polls, it appears that Evangelicals were split evenly amongst Willard, Mike and John. Where is the bigotry? Sorry, carry on. Assume your mantle of victimhood.
UW-Madison | 8:10 a.m. Feb. 6, 2008
Dear Mule, Utahns voting for Romney is not bigoted. Romney has NEVER attacked
Huckabee's religion. The same cannot be said for Huckabee.
("Don't mormons believe that Jesus and Satan are brothers?"
Classic misleading anti-mormon material. Give me a break!)
If I choose not to vote for Hilary it does not automatically mean that I'm sexist. If I choose not to vote for Obama it does not automatically mean that I'm racist. But if I make negative comments about Hilary being a woman I am being sexist, and if I make negative comments about Obama being black then I am being racist.
Utahns voted for Mitt because they know him and they trust him to get things done, just like he's gotten things done for them in the past. It's okay to vote for who you know the best. In fact if the people who know you the best everyone else should be worried.
If we go by your definition every American is a combination of racist, sexist, or bigoted. It's the negative comments and attitudes that make people those things, not necessarily their voting choice.
If I choose not to vote for Hilary it does not automatically mean that I'm sexist. If I choose not to vote for Obama it does not automatically mean that I'm racist. But if I make negative comments about Hilary being a woman I am being sexist, and if I make negative comments about Obama being black then I am being racist.
Utahns voted for Mitt because they know him and they trust him to get things done, just like he's gotten things done for them in the past. It's okay to vote for who you know the best. In fact if the people who know you the best everyone else should be worried.
If we go by your definition every American is a combination of racist, sexist, or bigoted. It's the negative comments and attitudes that make people those things, not necessarily their voting choice.
Anonymous | 8:38 a.m. Feb. 6, 2008
He got caught lying.
Real Americans detest liars.
What's the problem?
Real Americans detest liars.
What's the problem?
TRIG | 4:38 p.m. Feb. 6, 2008
Romney never had a chance, but let's hope his moment in the spot light will
bring interest and demand on the mormon church to open up and allow the light of
day in so both members and non-members can see inside to know what it is really
all about.
Anonymous | 8:40 p.m. Feb. 6, 2008
Part of that "spotlight" TRIG doesn't mention, is Romney's
candid remark on Channel 4 where he said, "God hasn't spoken to Man
since Moses."
If he had converted to Catholicism or something, he might have had a chance.
If he had converted to Catholicism or something, he might have had a chance.
Betsy | 12:21 a.m. Feb. 7, 2008
I am a conservative who is an independent. I will not vote for John McCain
under any circumstance. Fear of Hilary Clinton is not enough to make me pull
the lever. America needs to be humbled and a democrat in office would do it.
Washington is broken we have strayed from the constitution that I believe was
inspired from God. John McCain is part of the problem. If you want to make
Utah competive put Huckabee as the nominee or even a VP nod. Then again there
are enough Latter Day Saints that believe the Republican party= Celestial Glory.
Even Governor Huntsman is proving to be to moderate for my comfort level. Tip:
To the Democrat party leaders in Utah and the intermountain West keep reminding
of Huckabee's bigotry if he is the VP or nominee then you will have a
chance at turning states who are normally red blue
Anonymous | 9:50 a.m. Feb. 7, 2008
My favorite thing about this debate is the fact that very few can separate
ideology "liberal, conservative" and party line "Democrat,
Republican" there is a difference and yes you can be a conservative
democrat and a liberal republican. They are not mutually exclusive
Bookaholic | 4:47 a.m. Feb. 8, 2008
I think now is the time for us to revamp our nominating process. The way it is
now conducted gives WAY too much power to early states. Also, the
winner-takes-all states skew the delegate counts.
I don't know how we change things, but for the good of the party and the nation, we have GOT to get this mess straightened out. As it is now, it looks like we will end up with a candidate that the majority of conservatives not only disagree with, but absolutely cannot stand.
How can the process be changed? We cannot ignore this crisis in the party. We have got to right this error in procedure. Why should later voting states give up their contribution to the nominating process?! Let's figure out how to fix this, folks!
I don't know how we change things, but for the good of the party and the nation, we have GOT to get this mess straightened out. As it is now, it looks like we will end up with a candidate that the majority of conservatives not only disagree with, but absolutely cannot stand.
How can the process be changed? We cannot ignore this crisis in the party. We have got to right this error in procedure. Why should later voting states give up their contribution to the nominating process?! Let's figure out how to fix this, folks!
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