Jeremy Beckham | 11:41 p.m. Jan. 16, 2008
No one has answered my earlier question so I'll ask it more pointedly:

If you object to laws restricting foie gras because it infringes on humans' liberty/freedom of choice, how do you feel about dogfighting laws?

How do you distinguish between the two?
re: a concerned citizen | 12:34 a.m. Jan. 17, 2008
Interesting comment. I, for one, don't want animal liberationists to care about what I think.

This equation essentially illustrates your comment:

Animal liberationist = Human repressionist

If that is what you believe in, great. Go live with your beloved animals, who won't know exactly why you are there (but might be quite frightened) and would sacrifice you for them any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
re: Jeremy Beckham | 4:11 a.m. Jan. 17, 2008
I'll answer your question:

I would rather have a world where anyone can do anything they want to animals - dogfighting, foie gras, juicy steaks, cat tetherball, you name it - than a world where you and your proportionally small group of friends dictate the morals by which everyone else must abide. You think you have a perfect argument, because no one wants to say they would allow dogfighting. No amount of oppression, though, is going to rid the world of bad things. It's sad but true. You'll learn that someday, or you'll spend your life outraged that no one accepts your personal morals.
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Steve Hindi | 12:07 p.m. Jan. 17, 2008
Good and decent people are concerned about the suffering of all species, and understand that a just society need not feed, like parasites, on the suffering of others. While I regularly witness the efforts of animal protectors to enhance the well-being of humans as well, I often find that those opposing the fair treatment of animals are just as careless when it comes to needy humans.

The FBI and other law enforcement agencies understand the link between violence against animals and violence against humans. It is something all people should consider, even if their primary interest is those within their own immediate circle, animal cruelty matters, and it further defines us as a people.
Dear Cheeth | 12:59 p.m. Jan. 17, 2008
"Animals don't care about foie gras OR you."

This point is undeniably invalid. Whether or not an animal likes me or you is irrelevant. The object is to end it's suffering. Every living thing has the right to a life free from pain and suffering, especially if that pain and suffering has it's roots in human induced exploitation, or what's referred to as the Animal Enterprise Industry.
Some of you who have chosen to comment this article seem a bit misinformed. The ideal that Animal Rights embodies does not mean that animals should be treated as equals to humans. The concept of Animal Rights means that since animals share the same basic cognitive skills as humans, they should be treated with a fair and reasonable amount of equal consideration. Since they cannot possibly comprehend complex ideas or tasks (such as voting, for instance) they should not be granted those same rights in human society. In short all living creatures deserve a life free from pain, suffering and torment at the hands of humans.
JP | 7:22 p.m. Jan. 17, 2008
I'm seeing that many people are arguing the rights of human animals versus non-human animals, in that "animal rights" activists are not doing anything to help out non-human animals. This, nearly all cases, is completely false. Most everyone I know who promotes the well being of animals also provides a voice, assistance to, and direct aid of human animals as well. It is absurd to think that because one is involved in a movement that they are not involved in another. The fact that we are taking a stand against an injustice should give hope to others that we can acomplish our other goals of our planet's well-being. No one is telling to stop murdering animals, just don't force feed them until their liver literally bursts out of its side. Take a look at where all your food comes from. These are not the happy farms shown on corporate television. Open your eyes and your hearts.
re: Dear Cheeth | 6:19 a.m. Jan. 18, 2008
I feel bad for you. You think every creature in this world has the right to be free from pain and suffering. That means you think that is actually possible. Good luck with that.

Don't you think the actions of the people who broke the restaurant's window caused pain to other humans? You are trying to push your personal morals on everyone, and you're simultaneously applying a double standard. Amazing.

I almost agree with your last statement, with a just a couple changes:

Humans deserve a life free from torment at the hands of you and the tyranny of your personal beliefs.
Nana | 11:58 a.m. Jan. 18, 2008
this was a way good story. i love eating animals.
Tony | 12:00 p.m. Jan. 18, 2008
YAY DUCK! I eat Fois Gras
Gyusz | 6:21 p.m. Jan. 18, 2008
Animal rights forever! Stop animal abuse!
Darcie | 1:35 p.m. Feb. 16, 2008
Animal rights forever. that's what you say, as well as what the rancher says. Think about it, why would a capitalist treat his profit badly? Healthier animals taste better, sell for more, and are easier to care for. It makes no sence to abuse the animals that pay your bills.

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