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Anonymous | 11:13 a.m. Jan. 4, 2008
Voting Republican just because you're a Utahn, is like NOW voting for
Hilary just because she's a woman.
Where is Iowa anyways... | 11:15 a.m. Jan. 4, 2008
If I were Mitt I wouldn't be overly concerned about the 2nd place finish in
Iowa. Where is Iowa anyways... I would be more concerned that Mike Huckabee and
John McCain seem to be ganging up on him and seem to be stroking each others
ego. Funny how so many were concerned that Mormon's would vote for Mitt
simply because of his faith but Mike Huckabee is in the same situation and
almost nothing is made out of that. Its pretty sad that Iowans didn't look
deeply into the issues and vote according to those but rather went with the
"Christian card". The media dropped the ball in Iowa by not holding
Huckabee to a higher standard. Well, on to NH where the race will be tight
again. BTW, I'm a Mormon that is still waiting to choose the right
candidate. No automatic Mormon vote from this side. Get real people and pull
your heads out of the clouds!
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JLB | 11:22 a.m. Jan. 4, 2008
I agree with ROBERT from NC!!!GO ROMNEY!!!!!
Anonymous | 11:36 a.m. Jan. 4, 2008
I don't like mitt and I am a mormon.
He is hardly a conservative.
That being said, the religious hypocrisy from the
Huckabee crowd is positively New Testament in magnitude.
He is hardly a conservative.
That being said, the religious hypocrisy from the
Huckabee crowd is positively New Testament in magnitude.
it happened | 11:46 a.m. Jan. 4, 2008
"A democrat could never be a good Mormon."
(somebody actually wrote that in The Deseret News once)
(somebody actually wrote that in The Deseret News once)
Utahns go blue! | 11:58 a.m. Jan. 4, 2008
Why do Republican Mormons support the national GOP? Throughout Mitt's
campaign he has been criticized because of his religion. Evangelicals
didn't vote for him because he is mormon. So why do we still support the
national GOP? It doesn't make sense. Why not support a moderate democrate.
They are practically republican. Maybe Congressman Matheson fits the bill. You
don't hear Democrats trashing Harry Reid on his religion do you? Both
Huckabees' and McCains' camp have criticized Mormonism and then they
take it back like it was nothing. C'mon people, something has to change
because the GOP Evangelicals don't like mormons and yet we support their
party.
OBAMA the man - NOT! | 12:07 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
OBAMA can smile now but Clinton will win the democratic ticket. As for the GOP,
"Hick"-a-bee obviously wins a state where the vast majority are white,
under-educated protestants. Most of these folks played their close minded
"baptist" card but that card won't mean much when the campaign
hits the big states where the majority are more diverse and college educated.
JAMES STOWE | 12:16 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
FROM FLORIDA
TWO GREAT THINGS HAPPENED TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MITT LOSS IOWA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I GOT MY MARRIAGE LICENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BYE BYE MITT FOR GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU CAN STOP TAP DANCING AND BLINKING NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TWO GREAT THINGS HAPPENED TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MITT LOSS IOWA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I GOT MY MARRIAGE LICENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BYE BYE MITT FOR GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU CAN STOP TAP DANCING AND BLINKING NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Steve Nielsen | 12:30 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
'Ah Shucks' Huckabee has seen his first and last win. This guy looks
as presidential as a shoe salesman. Just his name "HUCKaBEE" will be
enough to turn off main stream voters. Can you imagine hearing the introduction
to Congress and the United Nations "president HUCKaBEE"?? If it
wasn't for his BASHING of the LDS Church to the "Christian"
evangelicals, (Oh, I'm sorry....he "apologized" for this slip of
the tongue), Romney would have at least had a fair chance. Guliani and McCain
will be selected way before HUCKaBEE.
My kind of man.....NOT!!!!!!!
My kind of man.....NOT!!!!!!!
Athena | 12:31 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
If Huckabee wins the nomination, the Democrats are going to win the election.
Huckabee is a flip-flop who only tells his audience what they want to hear.
I've never liked him.
Smart Man | 12:51 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
Romney will win the presidency. Even if he doesn't win, he will not lose,
as "win" has many definitions in various dictionaries and in the
literature.
Anonymous | 12:51 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
Anybody that brags and feels that he must tell you he's a Christian - is
probably not.
Anonymous | 1:29 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
There will come a time when the constitution of this great United States will
hang in the balance and you will all wish for a good, religious man holding the
Priesthood of God to be your leader. We are not stupid nor blind, we choose to
follow men of God. GO MIT!!!!
2 cents worth | 1:43 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
Romney won't win the presidency even if he takes the candidacy of his party
because Mass. won't give him their electoral college vote, and on every
case in the United States electoral history, no candidate has ever won who
didn't take their home state's electoral college vote. So Romney is a
non-sequitur and the Repubs shouldn't be wasting their time on bucking this
part of history, especially those Morms who believe that somehow their God will
step in a make it happen... I don't think so!
Clinton's not going to have as hard a time as everyone thinks as she has more influence and standing in the power structure of the Democratic party than many are willing to give her credit for and that's where the real nomination activity takes place. Obama can try a McGovern strategy and ploy of going after the teen/college age vote and hope for a similar outcome, but it won't happen. Also, Hispanics and other minority groups feel much more comfortable with Clinton than Obama, and for good reason! Clinton has a stellar record with these individuals, including the Blacks, which Clinton has done more for than Obama could even think or attempt doing.
Clinton's not going to have as hard a time as everyone thinks as she has more influence and standing in the power structure of the Democratic party than many are willing to give her credit for and that's where the real nomination activity takes place. Obama can try a McGovern strategy and ploy of going after the teen/college age vote and hope for a similar outcome, but it won't happen. Also, Hispanics and other minority groups feel much more comfortable with Clinton than Obama, and for good reason! Clinton has a stellar record with these individuals, including the Blacks, which Clinton has done more for than Obama could even think or attempt doing.
Iowan Idiots | 1:44 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
Obama did a great job! He has vision. As for Huckabee?? ? How can this pocket of
Americans in Iowa be so stupid to choose the most UNELECTABLE candidate of the
bunch??? Huckabee is am embarassment to the republicans. Perhaps the party will
find a way to torpedo any future wins by him. He pales in comparison to McCain,
Romney or Giuliani.
To 2 Cents Worth | 1:49 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
Although I agree with what you say about the candidates and their
electability...your statement that no president has ever won the presidency
while losing their home state is false :) James K. Polk lost Tennessee.
Change is good | 2:01 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
I am quite sure this blog acts as some sort of weird therapy for some of our
more caustic, Rush Limbaugh-sounding people.
I just hope they have had their prescriptions filled when they realize what just happened in November.
I just hope they have had their prescriptions filled when they realize what just happened in November.
JAMES STOWE | 2:04 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
TO ANON.:
YOU TOO BELIEVE THAT OLD MORMON SAYING.
I PRAY THAT SOON YOU WILL LEARN THE REAL TRUTH.
MAY GOD BE WITH YOU ALWAYS.
I SAY THESE THINGS..............
YOU MUST KNOW THE REST.
YOU TOO BELIEVE THAT OLD MORMON SAYING.
I PRAY THAT SOON YOU WILL LEARN THE REAL TRUTH.
MAY GOD BE WITH YOU ALWAYS.
I SAY THESE THINGS..............
YOU MUST KNOW THE REST.
Re: Anonymous | 2:17 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
"There will come a time when the constitution of this great United States
will hang in the balance and you will all wish for a good, religious man holding
the Priesthood of God to be your leader. We are not stupid nor blind, we choose
to follow men of God. GO MIT!!!!"
I suppose a post like this doesn't merit putting a name behind it. If you haven't been noticing the constitution hanging in the balance by being shredded the past 7 years by these clowns, you are simply not paying attention.
I suppose a post like this doesn't merit putting a name behind it. If you haven't been noticing the constitution hanging in the balance by being shredded the past 7 years by these clowns, you are simply not paying attention.
drunken lib | 2:27 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
I think it is over for the Arkansas traveler. She should just pack her bags.
it's funny | 2:28 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
"Anonymous" wrote some profetic response "There will come a time
when the constitution of this great United States will hang in the balance and
you will all wish for a good, religious man holding the Priesthood of God to be
your leader."
Looks like you need a course in democracy. There is no place for religion in politics. NONE. If you think that this rule only applies to people who are not of your same faith, then you my friend are Anti-American.
Looks like you need a course in democracy. There is no place for religion in politics. NONE. If you think that this rule only applies to people who are not of your same faith, then you my friend are Anti-American.
Billy Bob | 2:31 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
I guess I'm not a "good" Mormon, as I am a Democrat .. Go Hillary
! You people are a little loony tunes on here sometimes...
SLMG | 2:32 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
I would vote for Harry Reid (Democrat) and Orsen Hatch (Republican) in a heart
beat. I would never vote for Mitt Romney, to many flip flops on issues, to much
dishonesty. Utah, he is taking you for a ride, you better get out while you can
before the car crashes. Go Obama, Hillary, or John anyone but a Republican
after 7 disastrous years of George W.
Anonymous | 2:32 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
You can always spot the secure bloggers.
They have no need nor desire to put everything in caps. (internet jargon for shouting at somebody)
Very sad indeed.
They have no need nor desire to put everything in caps. (internet jargon for shouting at somebody)
Very sad indeed.
Paperboy | 2:39 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
Romney is in a very tight spot. His appeal is mainly to rich, socially
conservative Republicans. The problem is there are very few of these kind of
folks; at least not enough to get elected President. He has tried to position
himself to capture the vote of the religious right; but apparently his efforts
aren't paying off. What to do next? If he tries to morph into yet another
kind of candidate, he risks becoming even more of a "flip-flopper".
Yet if he does nothing, he is simply throwing his money away. Talk about a
quandry!
Katie | 3:21 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
Huckabee=big fat bigot.
Nolan | 3:31 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
Romney has been a disappointment, he should of had principles and stuck to them.
He then would at least be respected.
Change is good | 3:39 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
You bring up a good point, "Paperboy."
The problem that I see with our die-hard conservative people is that they seem to worship money and like to pretend they are running in the same crowd as the richie-riches like Romney.
Living vicariously as they say and paranoid of change - any change.
The problem that I see with our die-hard conservative people is that they seem to worship money and like to pretend they are running in the same crowd as the richie-riches like Romney.
Living vicariously as they say and paranoid of change - any change.
SL | 4:05 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
I'm surprised with all the internet access we have these days that people
don't bother to do their own research on the candidates. Instead they
choose to listen to the biased half-truths of the media.
Charles Gable | 4:09 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
The Romney playbook started in NH already. Mitt began his day attacking McCain.
Unfortunately for the "silver" winner in Iowa, McCain didn't roll
over and die. He shot back with a load of his own well place vitriol that neatly
exposed the differential between Romney's rhetoric and his record. If
Romney thought Huckabee was an armful, McCain is going to be the pit bull
nightmare of his life. Romney is yesterday's toast but he just won't
admit it. He has no chance in New Hampshire where McCain has the edge and
Huckabee will draw votes from him. And his chances in South Carolina, Florida
and the rest of the south crest at zero. He should take the $50 million or so
that he's going to lose in the next few weeks, give it to his church and go
looking for something better to do with his time.
New Hampshire | 4:13 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
So, Utah Resident, you believe New Hampshire is a liberal state? Pour me
whatever you're drinking. New Hampshire was a conservative state when
dinosaurs were still walking around in Utah. It's still a conservative
state. They've got real conservatives there--self-reliant,
mind-your-own-business conservatives. Perhaps you should get out and actually
see some of this country.
Anonymous | 4:16 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
Do you really want a mormon president? Then every problem that anyone has in
this country will be blamed on mormons. Why dont you all get something better
to do than sit and talk about whether or not Romney should be elected.
Whatever | 5:09 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
My biggest concern isn't that Romney didn't win. My biggest concern is
that Huckabee did. There were other more electable (honorable, interesting,
honest) candidates. How could they possibly take Huckabee seriously? There is
something wrong with these voters. But it'll be good to have a Democrat
nominee win easily. (If the voters see through the Huckabee facade and do some
research.)
tutu | 5:18 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
there is an old saying A wise man changes his mind often a fool never does. Go
Mr Romny you can do it. Some people can not see honesty and integrity when it is
right in front of their face.
John | 5:27 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
This just illustrates that religious bigotry exists and often rears its ugly
head.
And Bush Is? | 6:13 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
there is an old saying " A wise man changes his mind often a fool never
does"
Bubba | 6:38 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
Obama got 38% of 239,000 votes, or 90,820
Edwards got 30% of 239,000 votes, or 71,700
Clinton got 29% of 239,000 votes, or 69,310
Huckster got 34% of 129,000 votes, or 43,860
Romney got 30% of 129,000 votes, or 38,700
Kinda shows things in a different light than the media likes to portray, right?
Edwards got 30% of 239,000 votes, or 71,700
Clinton got 29% of 239,000 votes, or 69,310
Huckster got 34% of 129,000 votes, or 43,860
Romney got 30% of 129,000 votes, or 38,700
Kinda shows things in a different light than the media likes to portray, right?
Anonymous | 7:32 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
I sure wish Al Gore was running.
Ute in Philadelphia | 7:49 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
I sure wish Colin Powell would was running...especially as an Independent.
FIRST MAN??! | 7:58 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
If Ms. Clinton becomes pesident do you all realize that brother Clinton will be
the first "First Man"?
I would NOT want the title of first man. We have had First Ladies--but to be the first "First Man"??
Isn't that embarrising?? I guess that's just me. I'm moving to Canada with another clinton in the house....
I would NOT want the title of first man. We have had First Ladies--but to be the first "First Man"??
Isn't that embarrising?? I guess that's just me. I'm moving to Canada with another clinton in the house....
Craig | 8:01 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
Anyone wishing Al Gore was running should remain "anonymous".
Carmstrong | 10:14 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
Governor Romney is a model of a great family man with high standard of values.
He is my choice for the President and will be voting for him this coming
California Primary. I hope he wins overall!
Romney all the way | 10:24 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
if anyone wins besides romney im moving
AdjustableSpanner | 10:39 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
Does anyone remember that Huckabee promised the VP position on the ticket to
Stephen Colbert several months ago? It's on tape - let's see if he
flip flops!
Theo of SC | 11:14 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
I can't help but wonder what convinced Mitt the Republican party has not
over-identified themselves with Christian conservatism, his religion was more
than problematic AND his best choice was to be a conservative Republican? What
was he thinking?
For me, from day one his campaign has been so ridiculous it calls into question his ability to fully understand and strategize a bigger world around him as a President. He seems out of touch.
You cannot run as a conservative Republican - one with ad campaigns that focus on moral judgements and cultural wars without thinking you are foremost flirting with the Christian Right. As Mitt does! IE: Mitt ad - "Children should come after marriage.".
There's no way a conservative Republican of the kind Mitt has tried to pass himself off as (or chosen for himself to be) is going anywhere without the Evangelicals of the South. The jig is up! Huckabee has been discovered.
I am a democrat from South Carolina. ( Non-evangelical, Non-Mormon. Mitt is merely my study. Had he been a democrat, he may have been my candidate.
Meanwhile, I expect even more fascinating political and social drama in 2008 than 2007.
For me, from day one his campaign has been so ridiculous it calls into question his ability to fully understand and strategize a bigger world around him as a President. He seems out of touch.
You cannot run as a conservative Republican - one with ad campaigns that focus on moral judgements and cultural wars without thinking you are foremost flirting with the Christian Right. As Mitt does! IE: Mitt ad - "Children should come after marriage.".
There's no way a conservative Republican of the kind Mitt has tried to pass himself off as (or chosen for himself to be) is going anywhere without the Evangelicals of the South. The jig is up! Huckabee has been discovered.
I am a democrat from South Carolina. ( Non-evangelical, Non-Mormon. Mitt is merely my study. Had he been a democrat, he may have been my candidate.
Meanwhile, I expect even more fascinating political and social drama in 2008 than 2007.
baptist moron | 11:42 p.m. Jan. 4, 2008
Congrats to Mitt Romney you did very well lasnight.
realsice | 12:49 a.m. Jan. 5, 2008
US politics are appalling, some will leave the USA if their candidate
doesn't win. Al Sharpten says GOD won't let a Mormon be elected. The
leader of the KKK says an African-American will be taken out if elected. This
isn't a contest to see who's religion race or sex is best. We are
voting for the our president. It is time we put our prejudices aside and take a
close look at who we want to run the country. Those who believe in democracy
will allow the person who truly is elected to be president. If we feel any
different definitely leave. After all if we don't get our own way there are
much better places to live.
MITT ROMNEY FOREVER | 12:56 a.m. Jan. 5, 2008
No to Huckabee NO NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
VOTE FOR MITT ROMNEY!!!! EVERY VOTE for Mr. MITT ROMNEY IS A VOTE FOR A STRONG FAMILY. A strong family means a strong community, a strong community means a strong nation, a strong world, a strong universe!
VOTE FOR MITT ROMNEY!!!! EVERY VOTE for Mr. MITT ROMNEY IS A VOTE FOR A STRONG FAMILY. A strong family means a strong community, a strong community means a strong nation, a strong world, a strong universe!
Sally | 10:27 a.m. Jan. 5, 2008
to first man???
I totally agree! Another clinton and im moving to Canada or chile or some other place!
I totally agree! Another clinton and im moving to Canada or chile or some other place!
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