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Survey shines light on ORV unruliness
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To the few that don't behave this way, I apologize and challenge them to help us control the rest.
Don't punish law abiding citizens, envoke much stiffer fines and conficate their ORVs. Ban violaters from using area.
--Pit areas were damaged the most of all the areas along the race-course due to the unruly spectators that had the attitude "It's my land, I can go wherever I want, and do whatever I want...besides, it's only desert."
--Areas with desert pavement and fine silt loam soils will take hundreds of years to recover from the impacts from unruly spectators
--Cattlemen grazing their cows at the public trough complained more about the race than any other special interest group and were the most unreasonable people to deal with (every "cow" was a "prize" bull if it was impacted from the race).
In general, my observation has been that most ORV users are the rebelious type and that the respectful ORV users are the exception. ORV's can have severe adverse impacts on soil (erosion), plants, wild-life habitat, wildlife, water quality, aesthetics (visual and noise), and other users of public lands via intimidations and destruction of the environment. The same types of problem apply to snowmobiliers.
Is the ORV the thing that made these idiots do that?
They are just idiots. The fact that they also had an ORV is irrelevant.
I think the vast majority of ORV owners are normal well behaved people. To make this assertion that because some ORV owners behaved badly all ORV users are bad doesn't make sense to me.
Think about it... If you took away their ORV would these idiots stop acting like idiots? NO, they would just be idiots without ORVs! The ORV didn't make them do it. ORVs don't somehow make people go crazy. Taking away the ORV doesn't somehow make them return to normality. The ORV isn't the issue here!
The issue here is... There are idiots out there and many of them are attracted by what is going on at Little Sahara on Easter weekend.
Don't make all ORV owners look bad because a group of ORV owners who are attracted to the "party-party-do-anything-you-want-to" atmosphere this event is known for as the NORM among ORV users.
You have the same problems at concerts.
Lock them up. I don't want those jurks associated with my pasttime.
Do tell how ownership in an ORV causes illegal and illicit behavior?
People go to Sand Mountain over Spring Break for a reason, the same reason folks go to Lake Mead, Vegas, MTV 'Spring Break', etc. They know its going to be an out of control free for all party. I've never seen boats blamed for the reckless Lake Mead behavior, nor slot machines for the mayhem in Vegas. Guess they don't have the insight and wisdom of DesNews. (insert my rolling eyes)
Why did you only survey 300 people? With the number of individuals in these two organizations, this number is not high enough to give you a good random sampling of answers to your questions! Basic Stats here! And then if you only ask the questions to individuals in these organizations that support your cause, now the survey is not worth the paper it is written on! So now you have wasted my time and everyone elses that reads this.
I recreate on public lands all the time, and very, very seldom see this kind of behavior. If it does happen, someone normally within their group will take charge of the situation, and bring it back under control.
Why not let an independent run the survey with the same questions!
Folks, you do not have a right to take your off road vehicles anywhere you want.
I can't wait for a new Democratic president who will change the rules and require set aside areas for these noisy and damaging hobbyists.
The wilderness if for nature, not motorized thrill seekers.
In addition to very visible licenses on all four sides of each ATV/dirt bike, severe penalties for irresponsible riding, confiscation of the vehicle and points off on regular vehicle insurance, all public lands should be "CLOSED UNLESS POSTED OPEN."
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