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LDS told to ready for secularism fight
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He posits that raping girls is a result of secularism. Quite the opposite is true. It is the secularists who have led the charge against child abuse and fought religions who would forcibly marry their daughters.
It is the secularists who defend women in violent marriages
It is the secularists who are attempting to save the world and her species from the heat of corporate greed.
It is the secularists who defend the world from the abuse and over-reaching power grab of religions.
In Darwin we trust!
The secularists claim high moral ground of protection of children and women when in reality most of them want to separate them from the family and religion. They lead the charge to force our children to be educated with their dogma in public schools and encourage women to leave their children in the hands of "day-care" providers who could never love their children like a mother can.
The secularists of Hollywood even in commercials and cartoons consistently portray men as stupid and childish and women as intelligent and super individuals who can have a high paying career and family and juggle it all swimmingly.
The homosexual agenda is to kill the nuclear family and supplant it with surrogate mothers for gay couples and sperm donors for lesbians. Most gay men aren't interested in fidelity or marriage they are just interested in legitimizing their depravity and in the process the institutions of marriage and family are in serious danger.
That bugbear of fundamentalists everywhere, "the separation of church and state" seems to go hand-in-glove with ol' Joe Smith's 11th Article of Faith, "We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may." It seems the best way to respect the 11th is to make good and sure that no one single faith runs the country.
I don't think he meant censorsed wisdom. I took what he said to mean "purified." Ideas and "knowledge" are like water seeping through granite in the mountains. They start off with impurities, inaccuracies. Over time they are filtered through experience and application, testing an refining and molding them until they come through the filter as wisdom. Wisdom that can stand the test of time. That is what he asked the students to seek out.
I am encouraged!
All wisdom is filtered through the greatest minds, and even the lesser ones. It does not exist in some independent, platonic realm.
Try to think more carefully about what wisdom is, and you will understand that wisdom without filters (great minds) is no wisdom at all.
But there are those in the secular community, typified by Hollywood and other elites, who are immoral and want to influence more Americans, especially young people to adopt their immoral views. We need to deal with the shades of gray here and not just label things as black and white.
But there is a fight to be fought, and we're losing ground (we religious moralists) in the popular media which is influencing so many minds.
We also lose when the weak among us violate the morals they profess, as others have mentioned above. These are people without integrity who profess religion, because it's popular or expected of them or gives them some social advantage, but "inwardly are ravening wolves," to quote Jesus. But please, secularists, don't judge the rest of us religious folk badly because of the few wolves out there.
An intellectually honest look at what the Bible actually says, contrasted with what the sciences of genetics, biology, archeology and geology have to say about our world and how we came to be here, should be enlightening.
And mormons best leave their brand of theocracy behind the walls of their wards. Doing this will keep them from being frustrated and freaking out.
One day we all will see God and know that he is, and we will admit that his commandments are kind. Truly living them sets one free from the pain and ugliness of this world. By living God's commandments we have peace. Not that it is easy. It isn't. But worth it.
Anyone who hasn't found this to be true is good at rationalization. Don't buy into lies and crafty words of people who think they know. This man speaks truth and wisdom. Filtered or not.
1) Also find "rape" of a child apalling.
2) Do not think pornography should be viewed by children.
Please do not make assumptions about us Mr. Robinson. I'm sure statistics would probably find that since most Americans are Christian, most American children are sexually abused by God fearing Christians, and most pornography is downloaded by the same.
From my perspective, there are good, bad, and dubious advocates on both sides. Please try to understand this.
Not all secularists are pornographers, though most pornographers are secularists. Not all religionists are Islamic women-subjugators, though most Islamic women-subjugators are religionists.
These "secularists" don't want to tell religious people how to live their lives. They just don't want religious people to tell them how to live their lives. We not only have freedom of religion in America, we also have freedom from religion in America. The religious extremists in our country are the aggressors and the persecutors. The "secularists" are being persecuted and are just defending themselves.
The best thing about right winger religious extremist labeling such as this is it tells the fellow religious extremists who to bash and which side to take without wasting time actually educating themselves about the issues.
If we do nothing we will lose the fight and the Church will become apostate and agree with the religious right. Forunately for us this hasn't happened yet and this is why there is such anti-Mormon attitude on the part of the religious right while those who adhere closing to the New Testament teachings of Christ don't attack us.
I really don't think intelligent people want the above to come to pass.
It's really quite simple. Secularists refer to those who follow the tenets of religion as narrow-minded because when your argument is flawed, the only power you have left is name calling.
That is why those who have a moral foundation based in religion are "backwards", "bigoted", "repressed", and "narrow-minded" and those who do whatever "feels good" at the moment are "open-minded", "tolerant", and "progressive".
Like I said, it's really quite simple. Those who do the name calling get to make up the names!
The secularists were exactly the ones who brought on the Dark Ages. Maybe you haven't EVER had a history class! The Dark Ages were a time of securlarism much like we see in many groups modern day society. True intelligence comes from God, like anything else. If you believe otherwise, I pity you, and hope you can overcome your own disbelief and take responsibility for your life.
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