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hawkgrrrl | 1:27 p.m. Dec. 10, 2007
The problem is that the republican party has changed. It used to be a party
that protected individual liberty (free agency). I can't believe
libertarianism is the solution (too isolationist--what about foreign policy?
Can anyone seriously see Ron Paul at the G8 summit?). Nor can I get on board
with the social programs & special interests of the dems, even though they
want to protect individual rights (ACLU, GLTBs). So, there is no party that
truly protects free agency. Basically, I think Mormons just want to be left
alone to follow the dictates of our own conscience. I think Mitt is well aware
of the issues with the party, but he can't protect free agency without
being elected and he can't get elected without the nomination, and he
can't get the nomination without pandering to TPTB in the party (the
military, the evangelicals, and the social values police). Maybe it's time
to get past a two-party system.
TKC | 1:47 p.m. Dec. 10, 2007
GO MITT!!!
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Anonymous | 1:50 p.m. Dec. 10, 2007
Ron Paul certainly does seem to speak to we Americans who are plain fedup with
both sides of the house.
The fact that he had the courage to proclaim "we are in the middle of a revolution" in the last debate, is Patrick Henry stuff.
Watch the lunatic Limbaugh freaks start screaming "traitor!" or "sedition!" And this will surely excite real Americans all the more.
The fact that he had the courage to proclaim "we are in the middle of a revolution" in the last debate, is Patrick Henry stuff.
Watch the lunatic Limbaugh freaks start screaming "traitor!" or "sedition!" And this will surely excite real Americans all the more.
M Margolies | 1:54 p.m. Dec. 10, 2007
Have to strongly agree with hawkgrrrl, two party system is not working and it
systematically blocks other parties and ideas. Even after my comments about
Libertarians I can't wholeheartedly agree with them either, nationalists,
Constitutionalists? They mostly have decent platforms with party ranks filled
out my crackpots, militants, and isolationists.
Is there any hope? I'll vote Republican even if many of my views are moderate Libertarian, and often siding with environmentalists despite disagreeing with them on how they hurt big business and ignore property owner rights. there just does not seem to be a completely right answer no matter what your views and beliefs.
Is there any hope? I'll vote Republican even if many of my views are moderate Libertarian, and often siding with environmentalists despite disagreeing with them on how they hurt big business and ignore property owner rights. there just does not seem to be a completely right answer no matter what your views and beliefs.
Anonymous | 2:35 p.m. Dec. 10, 2007
"Hawkgrrl" says, "maybe its time to get past a two-party
system."
I sincerely hope she/he means having more than 2 parties (which Western Europe has successfully done forever) rather than a one-party state.
A one-party state is what got Nazi Germany started down the wrong path.
I sincerely hope she/he means having more than 2 parties (which Western Europe has successfully done forever) rather than a one-party state.
A one-party state is what got Nazi Germany started down the wrong path.
Anonymous | 2:53 p.m. Dec. 10, 2007
I hate to be the one to break this to anyone, but the powers that be would NEVER
allow a change in the two-party joke of a system that we have in place today.
It's easier to play the divide-and-conquer game (aka conservative v liberal nonsense) manipulating both to infighting while they merrily go about their way sucking up to special interests, getting perks and wealth for themselves, families and friends, all the while the country goes further down the tube daily.
It's easier to play the divide-and-conquer game (aka conservative v liberal nonsense) manipulating both to infighting while they merrily go about their way sucking up to special interests, getting perks and wealth for themselves, families and friends, all the while the country goes further down the tube daily.
Knowah | 3:06 p.m. Dec. 10, 2007
It's indeed unfortunate that such a good speech is now wasted on the
downturn in the polls for Mitt. America can be very difficult to deal
rationally with.
Anonymous | 3:39 p.m. Dec. 10, 2007
I thought it was weird that the Washington Post made a tacky comment that Romney
did not include that America was made of people w/o faith. Well, wasn't
America established upon religious values/freedom? What happened to "one
nation under God?" It seems that America has become caught up in pleasing
minorities that we forget that the majority should be represented, too!
Anonymous | 3:48 p.m. Dec. 10, 2007
To "Knowah" -
Whatever will be, will be.
Or for those who prefer to look at it this way:
God's will be done.
Whatever will be, will be.
Or for those who prefer to look at it this way:
God's will be done.
Anonymous | 4:04 p.m. Dec. 10, 2007
I don't think it wise to embrace the ostentatiousness of those who push the
limits of the Constitution to promote themselves as candidates of faith.
For the truth is that no matter how often candidates like Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee promise to uphold the Constitution and protect religious freedom, they are clearly seeking to impose the restrictive tests of faith that the nation's founders abhorred.
For the truth is that no matter how often candidates like Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee promise to uphold the Constitution and protect religious freedom, they are clearly seeking to impose the restrictive tests of faith that the nation's founders abhorred.
DLH | 4:23 p.m. Dec. 10, 2007
I love (sarcasm) when people pull out the "one nation under god" and
"in god we trust" ... these were pretty much invented as marketing
rally cries during war years. They are not part of the consitution.
It is fine with me if the next president is a gay Wiccan at home so long as he or she makes government decisions on statistics, research and well educated advisors.
It is fine with me if the next president is a gay Wiccan at home so long as he or she makes government decisions on statistics, research and well educated advisors.
Anonymous | 6:24 p.m. Dec. 10, 2007
'All Due To Democracy'
Sometimes people call him an idealist.Well,that is the way I know he is an American,my fellow World Citizen-I do not say it in disparagement of any other great people-America is the only idealistic nation in the World.
America at least has hope and faith to make civilisation full and interesting!
Romney gives the impression of high competence and faith in making an enrichment of the World.
comments from New Zealand
Sometimes people call him an idealist.Well,that is the way I know he is an American,my fellow World Citizen-I do not say it in disparagement of any other great people-America is the only idealistic nation in the World.
America at least has hope and faith to make civilisation full and interesting!
Romney gives the impression of high competence and faith in making an enrichment of the World.
comments from New Zealand
Just facts | 6:26 p.m. Dec. 10, 2007
CBS News/New York Times poll, the former Arkansas governor is running
neck-and-neck with former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani in the race for the
support of GOP primary voters nationwide, and all the momentum is on
Huckabee's side.
Anonymous | 6:42 p.m. Dec. 10, 2007
It doesn't matter what is happening to the imploding GOP. People are tired
of the most corrupt administration America has ever seen and will see to it that
change is the wind.
God bless sane America.
God bless sane America.
JJ | 6:59 p.m. Dec. 10, 2007
Hmmmmmmmmmm, if Mr. Romney is "required" to give a speech defining how
his religion will affect his decisions in the White House, shouldn't Obama
give one that will define how Oprah will affect his?
Huckabee should be ashamed | 7:05 p.m. Dec. 10, 2007
Huckabee may win this thing. But he should be ashamed, relying on ads
proclaiming his "Christianity" with the obvious inference Romney is
not.
I personally have reservations about Romney's "flip-flops" on some important issues, but I think there is no question his background in business, public service and government shows him to be the most qualified and capable of any candidate, Republican or Democrat. If not for the "Mormon" issue, I think he would be the clear front-runner on the Republican side.
I personally have reservations about Romney's "flip-flops" on some important issues, but I think there is no question his background in business, public service and government shows him to be the most qualified and capable of any candidate, Republican or Democrat. If not for the "Mormon" issue, I think he would be the clear front-runner on the Republican side.
To JJ | 7:08 p.m. Dec. 10, 2007
Or should Hilary have to give one explaining how Bill will affect hers?
weirdo | 7:52 p.m. Dec. 10, 2007
"I'm not an atheist but, really, I don't want anyone in the White
House making important decisions based on prayer or biblical teachings."
the laws of the land for the most part are based on biblical teachings. Look at the ten commandments and see how closely the relate to the laws we citizens are required to obey.
Do you really think Romney got to where he is by denying his faith and values? I'll bet that prayer and biblical teachings has played a big part in how Romney runs his family, business, and his politics. He seems to be succesful in those areas.
the laws of the land for the most part are based on biblical teachings. Look at the ten commandments and see how closely the relate to the laws we citizens are required to obey.
Do you really think Romney got to where he is by denying his faith and values? I'll bet that prayer and biblical teachings has played a big part in how Romney runs his family, business, and his politics. He seems to be succesful in those areas.
Bill | 8:42 p.m. Dec. 10, 2007
Anonymous,
The most corrupt administration ever was the Clinton administration. Bush is spotless compared to Slick Willy and his minions God help us if his feckless wife gets elected. This country will be turned upside down and will be a prime target for the Chinese and the Islamo-Fascists.
Read some books and get some historical perspective. Stay away from the Koolaide.
The most corrupt administration ever was the Clinton administration. Bush is spotless compared to Slick Willy and his minions God help us if his feckless wife gets elected. This country will be turned upside down and will be a prime target for the Chinese and the Islamo-Fascists.
Read some books and get some historical perspective. Stay away from the Koolaide.
Mo-Town | 8:53 p.m. Dec. 10, 2007
In response to "To Mo-Town," who is yet another to come to the defense
of Ron Paul. The guy claims to be a defender of the Constitution without
speaking in sensible terms to how others have distorted it
His whole platform... and I tune in to every debate... is I am the one Republican who opposes the War. That's what he wants folks to know. I am weak on terror. I oppose abortion, and I want to get rid of the IRS, but unlike the others on the podium, I am weak on terror
You may not be one of his loon followers, but I don't know how many I've heard that actually believe the 911 conspiracy theories. They actually think it was an inside job. These are his supporters, and the fact that he actually agreed with Bill Maher (thee most out-spoken member of the Godless, fringe left) on anything, really scares me
Stop wasting your time Paulites. Pick a candidate, whoever it is, as long as they actually have a shot at winning
His whole platform... and I tune in to every debate... is I am the one Republican who opposes the War. That's what he wants folks to know. I am weak on terror. I oppose abortion, and I want to get rid of the IRS, but unlike the others on the podium, I am weak on terror
You may not be one of his loon followers, but I don't know how many I've heard that actually believe the 911 conspiracy theories. They actually think it was an inside job. These are his supporters, and the fact that he actually agreed with Bill Maher (thee most out-spoken member of the Godless, fringe left) on anything, really scares me
Stop wasting your time Paulites. Pick a candidate, whoever it is, as long as they actually have a shot at winning
Tim | 9:03 p.m. Dec. 10, 2007
To Huckabee should be ashamed: I absolutely agree that Mitt Romney is the only
ones that has proven himself in the private and public sector. No one else
comes even close. And I also agree that Huckabee's
"christianity" inference is a low blow and has no place in the
campaign. Just look at the records and let them speak for themselves. It is no
contest.
hawkgrrrl | 10:08 p.m. Dec. 10, 2007
Huck has replaced his "Christian Leader" ads now to "Proven
Leader." Perhaps he was uncomfortable with the reason for his recent surge
and wanted to create broader appeal. However, it would have been nice for him
to give the speech on faith & tolerance vs. Mitt or at least attend the
speech and start the wave in the audience.
Yes, to clarify, I meant additional or different parties.
Yes, to clarify, I meant additional or different parties.
Pauline | 10:10 p.m. Dec. 10, 2007
Margolies: Harry Reid could not have been in your grandfather's scout
troop. He was much older when he joined the LDS church.
Jim | 10:18 p.m. Dec. 10, 2007
It is impossible to know what any candidate will do in specific situations if
elected. I think the best we can do is to look at the character and record of
the candidate, consider if they have the right values and then support them in
the tough decisions they have to make. The suicidal game we play of "Kill
the leader" will ensure the continuation of the political quagmire we are
in. The checks and balances built into our constitution provide an orderly way
to see that the "Will of the people" will be done. I will support any
of the candidates if elected. I am pulling for Romney but hope that our country
wins, no matter who is elected.
Rob | 10:47 p.m. Dec. 10, 2007
For those who criticize Mitt for raising a warning voice about the religion of
secularism, technically he did say that there is no freedom without religion and
no religion without freedom, thus he did include agnostics and atheists as being
of value to the cause of freedom when he categorized them as a religion.
For those who fault him for running on a pro-choice platform to win as a governor in Massachusetts and on a pro-life platform to win as President. If you thought he was wrong to be pro-choice then you must admire him for changing his platform and for the fact his record as governor resembled that of a pro-life advocate. The only people who might have any grounds to fault him for switching away from the pro-choice platform are pro-choice supporter, however in faulting him those individuals must contradict the fundamental basis of their own conviction which is to always support other peoples right to chose even when they may be ethically wrong as long as the decision doesn't break any law.
For those who fault him for running on a pro-choice platform to win as a governor in Massachusetts and on a pro-life platform to win as President. If you thought he was wrong to be pro-choice then you must admire him for changing his platform and for the fact his record as governor resembled that of a pro-life advocate. The only people who might have any grounds to fault him for switching away from the pro-choice platform are pro-choice supporter, however in faulting him those individuals must contradict the fundamental basis of their own conviction which is to always support other peoples right to chose even when they may be ethically wrong as long as the decision doesn't break any law.
to Elizabeth | 7:48 a.m. Dec. 11, 2007
Actually, if you read the ACTUAL words, and not listen to left wing talk raido,
nor read the 'excerpts' from Moveon.org, you might have noticed that
he did not say he would not put a muslim on his cabinet. He did say that he
would not put a muslim on just to have a muslim, a la Clinton who appointe folks
just for color or sex. Rather, he would appoint on experience. If a
muslim-american is qualified, and the best person for the job, he gets it.
Try some reading in context.
Try some reading in context.
my2cents | 7:55 a.m. Dec. 11, 2007
When will Mike huckabee give 'the speech' that will distance himself
from that Baptist faith, and 'explain' it's weirdness. I
don't understand it, and would like to know if he will govern like J.
Carter, or like R. Reagan.
Just wondering.
Just wondering.
Curious | 8:26 a.m. Dec. 11, 2007
Is it intelligence, wisdom, experience,a fighter yet of humble spirit.....does
this make for a future president? So why not Romney? Perhaps a bit more
compassion for the less fortunate.....and can anyone tell me if it is true that
he and other Romneys' were or still are members of the John Berch Society?
Would this change the picture?
DLH | 8:46 a.m. Dec. 11, 2007
"the laws of the land for the most part are based on biblical teachings.
Look at the ten commandments and see how closely the relate to the laws we
citizens are required to obey"
True, but did you ever notice that the commandments closely relate to the common sence ways for any tribe to survive and prosper? Which do you suppose came first... rules for living or stone tablets from a burning bush?
True, but did you ever notice that the commandments closely relate to the common sence ways for any tribe to survive and prosper? Which do you suppose came first... rules for living or stone tablets from a burning bush?
Anonymous | 10:12 a.m. Dec. 11, 2007
When you don't have a strict separation of church and state, some group
will always maintain they are the "In-group." In this case, it's
the Christian people.
Things will spin out of control (which is the true Christian faith, etc.?) and somebody will get the short end of the stick.
Look at what happened to Jews in Christian Europe and that should explain why the Founders of our Country were so keen on the separation of church and state.
Things will spin out of control (which is the true Christian faith, etc.?) and somebody will get the short end of the stick.
Look at what happened to Jews in Christian Europe and that should explain why the Founders of our Country were so keen on the separation of church and state.
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