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Romney: No candidate should be rejected because of his faith
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Dirk A Babka | 10:52 a.m. Dec. 6, 2007
To:Governor Romney,
I thought he did a awesome job I happen to be on Governor Romney's Support for President Campaign.
Governor Romney you did the right thing I'am proud of you and also I and my Family are 100% for you for President and will do everything to get you elected.
Mitt you are what this country needs right now and you are a great American.Plus One of my Dad's good freinds is Jon M Huntsman Sr and he supports you as well and we as a the Babka Family have known Jon M Huntsman for a long time.Mitt I do hope you will be the next president and I will make sure that happens.
I Wish you and your Family a Merry Merry Christmas and a happy new Year 2008.
High regards and best Wishes for becoming President of the Untied States.Way to go Governor Romney you are the Best.
Dirk A Babka-The Babka Family
I thought he did a awesome job I happen to be on Governor Romney's Support for President Campaign.
Governor Romney you did the right thing I'am proud of you and also I and my Family are 100% for you for President and will do everything to get you elected.
Mitt you are what this country needs right now and you are a great American.Plus One of my Dad's good freinds is Jon M Huntsman Sr and he supports you as well and we as a the Babka Family have known Jon M Huntsman for a long time.Mitt I do hope you will be the next president and I will make sure that happens.
I Wish you and your Family a Merry Merry Christmas and a happy new Year 2008.
High regards and best Wishes for becoming President of the Untied States.Way to go Governor Romney you are the Best.
Dirk A Babka-The Babka Family
RE: "RE: Not Impressed" | 10:56 a.m. Dec. 6, 2007
That's right, no matter what Romney says, I still wouldn't elect him
because he's a Flip-Flopper, just like John Kerry was accused of... and it
has nothing to do with his religion. As for Lincoln and his Emancipation
Proclamation... a hero was made of a president who pursued the deaths of almost
600,000 individuals and untold damaged lives just to press the Republican
party's fanatical war hawks to stop what was a firmly Constitutionally
agreed to right... the right of a State to secede from the Union. It was not a
Civil War, but a War of Secession, fought over a State's right to secede
from the Union. Going into the 3rd year of the war Lincoln and the Republican
party had lost all public support for the war and Lincoln rekindled that support
with the Emancipation Proclamation, done purely as a means to continue the war,
with the major numbers of lives lost in the last 2 years of that campaign to
impose the Republican goal of Totaltarin Federalism. Many educated and well
researched Blacks have already recognized the Emancipation Proclamation for what
it is... a political ploy that had nothing to do with freeing blacks or civil
rights.
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Sojon | 11:06 a.m. Dec. 6, 2007
People keep saying the Mr Romney will have a delemia when governing deecisions
do not fit with Mormon beliefs. Why? because he is mormon? Harry Reed (sp?) is
a Mormon and no one is questioning him when he suports liberal causes and
politics that seem at odds with the conservitive Mormon church as he leads the
senate. The religious bogotry being shown to Mr Romney is dangerous, not only
because it undermines our consitituational beliefs, but because it is coming
from the RIGHT, the very people who place such a high value on thier own
religion. If you participate in blind bigotry, you need to be careful, your
religion might be next.
Still looking, but maybe close! | 11:07 a.m. Dec. 6, 2007
Re: Tom
That's how most public speakers bring there audience in, by piecing together phrases familiar to the audience. Go listen to speakers you've not been critical to, you might be surprised.
Good speakers work very hard to research and combine many different ideas into one conglomerate speech. That requires much training and education, explain how Joseph Smith was trained to do that so well.
I'm still not sold yet on a candidate, I wish we didn't have to pick between two extreme sides in order to find probable candidates!! But, after this morning I am more comfortable with Mitt than I have been yet. Great job, and I will gladly support him if elected.
That's how most public speakers bring there audience in, by piecing together phrases familiar to the audience. Go listen to speakers you've not been critical to, you might be surprised.
Good speakers work very hard to research and combine many different ideas into one conglomerate speech. That requires much training and education, explain how Joseph Smith was trained to do that so well.
I'm still not sold yet on a candidate, I wish we didn't have to pick between two extreme sides in order to find probable candidates!! But, after this morning I am more comfortable with Mitt than I have been yet. Great job, and I will gladly support him if elected.
Dirk A Babka | 11:08 a.m. Dec. 6, 2007
To:Governor Romney,
I thought he did a Awesome job in Talking about his Faith The Mormon Religion.Mitt one of My Dad's Dearest freinds is Jon M Huntsman Sr my father went to school with Jon and he endorses you and Jon is a great Human Being.
Way to go Mr Romney and The Babka Family is 100% for you for being our next Commader in Chief President of the United States and we as a Family will see to it that you get elected to the highest job in the Nation ok.
We are proud of you Governor Romney and wish you the very Best in this Presidential Election alright.
Again you are the right man for this job I know it.
High Regards and Fondley,
Dirk A Babka&The Babka family
I thought he did a Awesome job in Talking about his Faith The Mormon Religion.Mitt one of My Dad's Dearest freinds is Jon M Huntsman Sr my father went to school with Jon and he endorses you and Jon is a great Human Being.
Way to go Mr Romney and The Babka Family is 100% for you for being our next Commader in Chief President of the United States and we as a Family will see to it that you get elected to the highest job in the Nation ok.
We are proud of you Governor Romney and wish you the very Best in this Presidential Election alright.
Again you are the right man for this job I know it.
High Regards and Fondley,
Dirk A Babka&The Babka family
Excellent Job! | 11:10 a.m. Dec. 6, 2007
I though Mitt did an amazing job. He hit the points that needed to be hit. This
country was based on religion. We live in predominatly religious country and yet
we let the minority dictate what we can do. I had my hesitations with Mitt, but
more and more he has impressed me. The future is bright!
KH | 11:12 a.m. Dec. 6, 2007
I think he did a good job with this speach. However I still believe even if
Mitt were the best candidate, he can't be elected (because he's a
Mormon).
Think about it... 1/2 of the nation won't vote for him if he has any religious affiliation at all, and at least 1/2 of the Republicans and Independents won't vote for him because they've been taught he's not the right brand of religious belief.
Mitt will never be President but I'm glad he's running. Win or lose, what he adds to the debate will be good for the nation.
Think about it... 1/2 of the nation won't vote for him if he has any religious affiliation at all, and at least 1/2 of the Republicans and Independents won't vote for him because they've been taught he's not the right brand of religious belief.
Mitt will never be President but I'm glad he's running. Win or lose, what he adds to the debate will be good for the nation.
Dakota Kid | 11:12 a.m. Dec. 6, 2007
Home run
Tysonatthemovies | 11:16 a.m. Dec. 6, 2007
To Jason who sent to not impressed:
Apparently you had your mind well made up as well before listening to the speech based on your defensive remark of ambiguity. The sad fact is that Not Impressed is correct and there's nothing you can say to that.
Apparently you had your mind well made up as well before listening to the speech based on your defensive remark of ambiguity. The sad fact is that Not Impressed is correct and there's nothing you can say to that.
Roger | 11:18 a.m. Dec. 6, 2007
That was a fantastic political speech.
I would call this speech the �big-tent theory of American religion.� Good, moral people are those who believe in God and those who believe in freedom. If you don�t believe in those two things, you are the enemy. And we all know that America needs enemies.
If you believe in God and Freedom, you are one of �us�! If you don�t believe in God and not freedom (i.e. radical Muslims), then you are �them�! If you believe in freedom but not God (i.e. secular humanists), then you are �them�! Romney is implying that you can�t be a truly good person unless you believe in God. Being an otherwise good person just isn�t going to cut it in America.
Nothing gets the vast majority of Americans rallied together like the mantras �one nation under God� and �in God we trust�. This should remind the Evangelicals that the Mormons aren�t America�s enemies, the secular humanists are.
I would call this speech the �big-tent theory of American religion.� Good, moral people are those who believe in God and those who believe in freedom. If you don�t believe in those two things, you are the enemy. And we all know that America needs enemies.
If you believe in God and Freedom, you are one of �us�! If you don�t believe in God and not freedom (i.e. radical Muslims), then you are �them�! If you believe in freedom but not God (i.e. secular humanists), then you are �them�! Romney is implying that you can�t be a truly good person unless you believe in God. Being an otherwise good person just isn�t going to cut it in America.
Nothing gets the vast majority of Americans rallied together like the mantras �one nation under God� and �in God we trust�. This should remind the Evangelicals that the Mormons aren�t America�s enemies, the secular humanists are.
idaho | 11:18 a.m. Dec. 6, 2007
I was very impressed. He definatly has my vote.
Not Impressed | 11:21 a.m. Dec. 6, 2007
I said that Mormons were ejected from the midwest for sedition and subterfuge
against the State and Nation ( I've been in the special collections library
at BYU where it's all documented!) not for intolerance alone. As for
electibility, consider this: Take away the face, the name, the gender and the
race... only one person rises to the top as far as qualifications and what this
nation is in sore need of... you figure that one out... if you dare!
"Romney the only person who graduated number one in his class and been successfull in everything he's done." That's a stretch and totally untrue! Also, Vermont is listed as the most liberal state, not Mass. 2. He's never built a business from raw start-up with limited capital, which is real business success.. 3.Your Biblizing can actually apply to one degree or another to all contenders.
Given all the above, Romney loses my confidence when he states "Freedom requires Religion" because he's speaking of organized religion. The "Religion" the founding fathers sought to protect is personal religion and the right to think and express that as per one's conscience, so State and organized religion doesn't impinge on certain rights.
"Romney the only person who graduated number one in his class and been successfull in everything he's done." That's a stretch and totally untrue! Also, Vermont is listed as the most liberal state, not Mass. 2. He's never built a business from raw start-up with limited capital, which is real business success.. 3.Your Biblizing can actually apply to one degree or another to all contenders.
Given all the above, Romney loses my confidence when he states "Freedom requires Religion" because he's speaking of organized religion. The "Religion" the founding fathers sought to protect is personal religion and the right to think and express that as per one's conscience, so State and organized religion doesn't impinge on certain rights.
Greatness | 11:21 a.m. Dec. 6, 2007
The great of the LDS church is we are not interested in what nay sayers think
about our policies and who we excommunicate. All churches have their policies
and the way they work things. So does the mormon church. Say what you will, but
the church isn't changing to make others agree.
Not Impressed disciple | 11:22 a.m. Dec. 6, 2007
Once again for those of you who do not know their history, Not Impressed is
correct about the Emancipation Proclamation as well.
In regards to the Extermination Order in Missouri, the action was not made unprovoked. While it was wrong, the extreme LDS including the Church leaders share responsibility for it for their conquest and smug superiority complex.
In regards to the Extermination Order in Missouri, the action was not made unprovoked. While it was wrong, the extreme LDS including the Church leaders share responsibility for it for their conquest and smug superiority complex.
another con job | 11:24 a.m. Dec. 6, 2007
Romney has as much of a chance to become the GOP nominee as a black man becoming
a mormon bishop a few years back.
This guy has con artist written all over him.
This guy has con artist written all over him.
Anonymous | 11:26 a.m. Dec. 6, 2007
To Earl:
All the blogs I have read outside of Utah suggest that the main reason for not voting for him is because of their belief that Mormons are not Christian, not that could be a puppet president for his church.
The sad thing is most of these same people have know idea what Mormons believe outside of what their preacher has told them. If they would take some time to learn about Mitt's core values by how he has acted and conducted himself personally and in political office, I think they would learn that he lines up nicely with core Christian values.
I think Mitt did well in reinforcing his values, our founding father's values, and Christian values.
All the blogs I have read outside of Utah suggest that the main reason for not voting for him is because of their belief that Mormons are not Christian, not that could be a puppet president for his church.
The sad thing is most of these same people have know idea what Mormons believe outside of what their preacher has told them. If they would take some time to learn about Mitt's core values by how he has acted and conducted himself personally and in political office, I think they would learn that he lines up nicely with core Christian values.
I think Mitt did well in reinforcing his values, our founding father's values, and Christian values.
Ross from Ephraim | 11:27 a.m. Dec. 6, 2007
This speech was presidential. Very moving and a call to all of us to remember
the principles our great nation was founded upon. There is a sense of awe in who
we are in this country after hearing this address.
Unfortunately it went right over the heads of those who are ungrateful for what we have in this country and who have been so blessed to be part of it but seem to be unaware that history has been made today.
There is an old saying that says, there are those who know what happened, there are those who think they know what happened, and there are those who wonder "What happened?"
Unfortunately it went right over the heads of those who are ungrateful for what we have in this country and who have been so blessed to be part of it but seem to be unaware that history has been made today.
There is an old saying that says, there are those who know what happened, there are those who think they know what happened, and there are those who wonder "What happened?"
Excellent | 11:30 a.m. Dec. 6, 2007
I was very impressed by this speech, I truly believe he would make a great
President...funny because I am not LDS nor have I supported him in the past.
Earl | 11:32 a.m. Dec. 6, 2007
Nicely said about the Emancipation Proclamation. To drive the point home even
further, the Pledge of Alliegiance was part of the same attitude of
consolidating the U.S. into a single nation rather than a federation of
individual states. Its author was a socialist preacher who sought to create a
sense of nationalism in contradiction to constitutional ideals. The phrase
"one nation under God" would never have been passed muster with
Washington, Jefferson or Madison, although Hamilton would have loved it. Romney
is a Hamiltonian like most Republicans and Democrats, sad to say.
To Sojon | 11:38 a.m. Dec. 6, 2007
That's because liberals can do anything they want with impunity, while
conservatives are compared to Nazis by Anonymous. Harry Reid can be Mormon and
it's not an issue because he's a Democrat. But Romney is a Republican,
so the press and the liberals use his being a Mormon against him, and not a word
will be said about Reid. As for the conservatives that are trying to make an
issue of Romney being a Mormon, that's just stupidity on their part.
Wouldn't it be nice if we actually discussed issues in this country instead of having to discuss someone's religious views?
Wouldn't it be nice if we actually discussed issues in this country instead of having to discuss someone's religious views?
Clint in Florida | 11:45 a.m. Dec. 6, 2007
I do not see how Mitt's Religion is a problem. Mitt did an outstanding job
with his speech. Religion does not appear to be a problem for any other
candidate. What are the religions of all of the other candidates? Why are
their religions and their faith not being questioned? Why did the pilgrims come
to this continent? Why is freedom of religion one of the most important parts
of our constitution? It is our right to be able to practice their religion
without prejudice, and in total freedom.
What a great country this is that lets us practice what ever religion we wish too. We have Jews, Muslims, Catholics, Baptists, and even Satanists who all practice their religions freely, boy what a country. Think about all of the other countries on this planet that do not have the religious freedom that we have. Just try talking about Jesus Christ in Saudi Arabia; you could lose your head, or at the very least be flogged.
Mitt Romney is a great man and we all need to not focus on his religion, but on his accomplishments.
What a great country this is that lets us practice what ever religion we wish too. We have Jews, Muslims, Catholics, Baptists, and even Satanists who all practice their religions freely, boy what a country. Think about all of the other countries on this planet that do not have the religious freedom that we have. Just try talking about Jesus Christ in Saudi Arabia; you could lose your head, or at the very least be flogged.
Mitt Romney is a great man and we all need to not focus on his religion, but on his accomplishments.
Kathy | 11:45 a.m. Dec. 6, 2007
This was given in a very Presidential manner. I feel I could really support
this man who values his own beliefs and yet shows respect for the beliefs of
others. Tolerance and respect...these are great American ideals.
BW | 11:48 a.m. Dec. 6, 2007
Wow I just threw up a little bit. Freedom and religion in the same sentence?!?
Religion is slavery.
JR | 11:49 a.m. Dec. 6, 2007
What a sales speech, he could sell many property in Hell thinking it was
Heaven. Don't trust a word from his mouth and to all those that think he
can ignore the Church Leaders just look at the local Utah government to see how
it works. Mitt is two faced - he avoided serving his country and his kids
won't ever wear a uniform but Mitt will see that your child does plus he
believe in torture, coming from a man who ran from his chance to serve. We need
a Commander in Chief who served his country in a time of need
JC | 11:53 a.m. Dec. 6, 2007
I'm LDS and my middle name happens to be "Christian".
period
period
Daniel | 11:54 a.m. Dec. 6, 2007
Excellent!
Wow, along with the sporadic applause, I thought I was listening and watching a State of the Union. Could this be a favorable premonition for Romney? I think so!
Wow, along with the sporadic applause, I thought I was listening and watching a State of the Union. Could this be a favorable premonition for Romney? I think so!
sb | 11:54 a.m. Dec. 6, 2007
You did a great job!
thoughts | 11:55 a.m. Dec. 6, 2007
".... And though you will find many people of strong faith there, the
churches themselves seem to be withering away" - Mitt Romney
Seems like Mitt knows more about Christian faith and Christianity. He believes what the Mormon religion teaches. This is the real Mormon doctrine:
"And he said unto me: Behold there are save atwo churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the bother is the CHURCH OF THE DEVIL; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth." 1 Nephi 14:10, Book Of Mormon
In essense saying the Churches he does not belong to are from devil, so are withering away.
Seems like Mitt knows more about Christian faith and Christianity. He believes what the Mormon religion teaches. This is the real Mormon doctrine:
"And he said unto me: Behold there are save atwo churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the bother is the CHURCH OF THE DEVIL; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth." 1 Nephi 14:10, Book Of Mormon
In essense saying the Churches he does not belong to are from devil, so are withering away.
Jackson | 11:58 a.m. Dec. 6, 2007
I was really excited to hear this speech, and really hoped that he would say
something to motivate those of us who are very conservative, but not LDS. I was
SO disappointed...I thought he came off as snotty and holier than thou. He
didn't address my specific questions about electing a man to be president
that is not Christian. I wanted him to address the questions I have about his
religion. Unfortunately, my number one problem remains...I WANT A MAN OF GOD TO
BE PRESIDENT...AND I DONT THINK A MORMON CAN BE THAT PERSON :(
Chad Shane | 12:07 p.m. Dec. 6, 2007
His speech will become known as his farewell address.
George | 12:14 p.m. Dec. 6, 2007
Superb presentation, Mitt.
I agree with "Still looking, but maybe close!" and add how destructive detractors reveal so much more about themselves than they do about their targets.
"It's often what a person thinks he/she understands about what she/he thinks she/he understands about what he/she thinks he/she knows that prevents him/her from learning".
A grateful cousin.
I agree with "Still looking, but maybe close!" and add how destructive detractors reveal so much more about themselves than they do about their targets.
"It's often what a person thinks he/she understands about what she/he thinks she/he understands about what he/she thinks he/she knows that prevents him/her from learning".
A grateful cousin.
wow | 12:17 p.m. Dec. 6, 2007
Thats an awfully big accusation, Another Con Job, you must know everything about
him to be able to level that accusation. If you had such an issue with the
church maybe you should find another place to grind it.
Polls will rise. | 12:17 p.m. Dec. 6, 2007
I knew it would be a great speech. And what is even better, The News Media will
remember it for about a week..... I estimate a 5 point jump in the polls.
Political Savvy 101...
Political Savvy 101...
To Con Job.. | 12:18 p.m. Dec. 6, 2007
I've been blessed to have a Mormon Bishop who happened to be black.
I've adopted children, two of which are black and being raised LDS. Romney
did not need to address doctrine. He hit a home run. Even if not elected
president of the US, his speech will most likely go down as one of those great
speech of our time. He outlined history of our common faith - not just that of
the LDS. He reminded us that even our founding fathers accepted the faiths of
others.
Mitt hit a hommer and hit our hearts and souls.
Mitt hit a hommer and hit our hearts and souls.
kionakid | 12:24 p.m. Dec. 6, 2007
It is refreshing to see someone, anyone, not be afraid to indicate what they
believe in. Mr. Romney does't care what others may say, either from the
right or the left. However, everyone else from the ultra right to ultra left
will be sure to find fault. This country is an all inclusive country founded on
religious principles, but making sure that there was and is a separation between
state and religion. There is also room for those who don't believe in God
or any organized religion. I give him credit, despite the pundits, for setting
his record straight.
As for Harry Reid here is some info on him. "Reid, who has served as an elders quorum president, high councilor and Sunday school superintendent, converted to Mormonism while attending Utah State University in 1960. He subsequently converted his wife Landra from Judaism to the Mormon faith and has raised his family in the church." I think he probably knows quite abit about judaism and I certainly do not see any Nazi implications there.
There are too many spineless people in this country who don't want to take stand on anything, but love to criticize those who do.
As for Harry Reid here is some info on him. "Reid, who has served as an elders quorum president, high councilor and Sunday school superintendent, converted to Mormonism while attending Utah State University in 1960. He subsequently converted his wife Landra from Judaism to the Mormon faith and has raised his family in the church." I think he probably knows quite abit about judaism and I certainly do not see any Nazi implications there.
There are too many spineless people in this country who don't want to take stand on anything, but love to criticize those who do.
Curious | 12:25 p.m. Dec. 6, 2007
Dr Bob Millit was in attendance. I would have liked to hear his thoughts on the
speech.
Willard Watcher | 12:30 p.m. Dec. 6, 2007
Many of you may buy his BS but, He STILL reminds me of a snake oil salesman. He
tried to come off a Mr. Humble...I'm not buying it.
Earl | 12:32 p.m. Dec. 6, 2007
I mentioned in my first comment (9:06 a.m.) that "some people" (not
all or even the majority) are concerned that Romney might have to choose between
following the prophet and following his political agenda. Those of us who are
old enough to remember the JFK speech remember the issue centered around his
Catholic faith and whether he would follow the pope if edicts conflicted with
his political positions. It's true the majority who are biased against
Romney don't have that concern...yet. That's probably because they
don't realize there's a prophet leading the church. IF they
understood that, THEN they'd be very concerned about what he'd do if
prophetic statements conflicted with his agenda. Once they figure that out, his
chances for being elected are slim to none.
Junthor | 12:37 p.m. Dec. 6, 2007
To Jackson:
Dude, You can do your own research about the LDS religion ya know...
He did a good job.. I still wouldn't vote for him but the speech was nice.
Dude, You can do your own research about the LDS religion ya know...
He did a good job.. I still wouldn't vote for him but the speech was nice.
TO: Jackson | 12:40 p.m. Dec. 6, 2007
The goal of this speech wasn't to answer your questions about his religion,
instead to make clear the idea that he wouldn't take orders from the church
but make his own choices as president. You must have a perfect knowledge of all
to group all Mormons as not being of God. For wanting a man of God in office you
certainly seem to have a religious bias lumping 12-13 million people into the
godless group.
Oregon Ute | 12:45 p.m. Dec. 6, 2007
Well if nothing else Mormons are sure practical. When Mormon politcos need the
support of other religions all of a sudden the Mormon faith is grounded in the
same truths shared by other religions? HUH, since when does the one true church
believe that any other religion has any truth. As I read on I had to stop and
wipe my eyes, laughing so hard I almost passed out after reading "We
separate church and state affairs in this country, and for good reason. No
religion should dictate to the state", I guess he forgot to say except for
the state of Utah. Gimme a break!
Steve | 12:46 p.m. Dec. 6, 2007
Great job Mitt! Excellent speech today! I really enjoyed it. I liked how
inclusive it was, that he showed he respected and admired people of all
religions and differing churches. And to "Anonymous" above on this
board, he didn't exclude Jewish people by talking about Christ... he also
talked about God/the creator (kept using the term "the creator" often
to help be inclusive). Also he stood up for Jewish people specifically when he
stated the Menorah should be allowed in public places as well.
m | 12:50 p.m. Dec. 6, 2007
Just trying to think of a time when I had a conflict between being a devoted
member of the LDS Church, and a devoted citizen of my community, state or
country.
Never has happened. In fact I can't think of a time when it has happened to anyone else either. Guess I have nothing to worry about.
Never has happened. In fact I can't think of a time when it has happened to anyone else either. Guess I have nothing to worry about.
Phil | 12:51 p.m. Dec. 6, 2007
It�s ironic. The studies about religious bias in America
have indicated that there is a huge bias in America against Atheists, Muslims,
and Mormons. Rather than proclaiming that all religious bias is wrong,
Mitt�s tactic was, �I share you bias
against Atheists! Let�s focus on that! Atheists are
awful�I�ll fight with you on that one!
One Nation Under God, in God We Trust!�
It�s a smart move. The bias against atheists is huge, and Mitt surely doesn�t need their support.
It�s a smart move. The bias against atheists is huge, and Mitt surely doesn�t need their support.
con man, politician - same thing | 12:53 p.m. Dec. 6, 2007
No, "wow" -
no beef with Mormons (nice "we are being persecuted"
routine, however).
I've been around long enough to recognize a politician when I see one.
Stacked house applauding his every word ...
come on ... you must have been born yesterday.
no beef with Mormons (nice "we are being persecuted"
routine, however).
I've been around long enough to recognize a politician when I see one.
Stacked house applauding his every word ...
come on ... you must have been born yesterday.
...... | 12:54 p.m. Dec. 6, 2007
......Romney sounds like he's apologizing to the christian world about his
faith. He's giving answers that THEY want to hear. Not what is truth.
To Jackson | 12:59 p.m. Dec. 6, 2007
Interesting...You want a man of God to be president, a Christian. Apparently
you don't believe Mormons are Christian. Actually, Mormons are Living
Christians. We believe as did Peter that Christ is the Son of the **living**
God. We also believe in living prophets and apostles. We further believe in
actually living our religion. That would make Mormons living Christians.
Those who ignorantly assert Mormons are a cult and non-Christian actually believe in a Trinity which was defined by a rather wicked political ruler. The whole idea of everywhere and nowhere is pure pagan and Aristotilian philosophy, mandated by a powerful emperor. So your so-called man of God would turn out to be someone whose religious beliefs are defined by political expediency.
In a word, the Nicean Creed belief structure is, well, a political statement.
So...like it or not, in contrast I think you will find Mormons to be living Christians, not only in word but quite often in deed also.
Kind regards....
Those who ignorantly assert Mormons are a cult and non-Christian actually believe in a Trinity which was defined by a rather wicked political ruler. The whole idea of everywhere and nowhere is pure pagan and Aristotilian philosophy, mandated by a powerful emperor. So your so-called man of God would turn out to be someone whose religious beliefs are defined by political expediency.
In a word, the Nicean Creed belief structure is, well, a political statement.
So...like it or not, in contrast I think you will find Mormons to be living Christians, not only in word but quite often in deed also.
Kind regards....
Lynnette | 12:59 p.m. Dec. 6, 2007
Why does religion of any denomination need to be considered in a President, it
has never been an issue before or even with all the other candidates. I thought
Romney did a great job of addressing the questions. If you want to know more
specifics about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day-Saints find a neighbor
to get the missionaries to answer them. Don't expect to have your
questions answered in a political speech.
Mark Morphy | 1:06 p.m. Dec. 6, 2007
Great Job President Romney!Thanks for your integrity and love for our founding
fathers
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As a secular humanist, believe Mitt is god's answer to whatever, if believing this floats your boat. Being secular I don't push my views on others by interrupting people's lives. I wish my family's faith was as tolerant as I try to be. Life is too short. Being an American, is about the pursuit of happiness.
I survived Nixon and now Bush. I will survive if Americans elect Mitt.
Serving my mission, defending Western democracy in Europe in the US Amry, taught me the value of enduring adversities.