Reader comments
Dick Harmon: Las Vegas Bowl had no choice but the Bruins
142 comments | Read story
- Page:
- < Previous
- 1
- 2
- 3
What a completely ridiculous statement!! Of course, there are a lot of teams out there with winning records that are not going to a bowl game, but how many of them are 10-2, undefeated conference champions, and ranked in the top 20, for the second straight year? Why shouldn't BYU fans want to see their team play against a bowl opponent of similar standing? It would not be any different with Ute fans if their team was in this situation and you know it! I remember very well hearing a lot of "Gripe and Moan" from Ute fans in '04 when their #4 team got stuck with a #19 Pitt in the Fiesta Bowl, and I didn't blame them one bit. That was an outstanding team that deserved to play against a better opponent. So don't go taking shots at BYU fans for feeling the same way.
Basic-ground-rules:
Current football season is reduced from 12 to 10 games.
Individual conferences are required to have a Championship game at the end of regular season.
Playoff pool consists of 32 teams which are chosen by committee patterned after NCAA Basketball Selection committee. Conference champions are granted automatic tournament berths(11). Remaining teams(21) are eligible for at-large-playoff-spots.
Playoff-games-and-participants-are-determined-on-a-regional-basis (i.e. MWC/PAC-10/WAC; SunBelt/SEC East/ACC South; Big-10/MAC/Big-East; Big-12/SEC West/ConfUSA, etc.) with-each-region-contributing 8 teams-to-its-playoff-pool. This allows good non-conference champion teams a chance to participate.
First-round-games-are-played-in-home-stadiums-of-team-with-best W-L record (or-determined-by-some-other-criteria).
Rounds 2-4 are played in regionally-based bowl-type settings.
Four-regional-winners play championship semis and finals in larger bowls (Fiesta, Sugar, Rose, Orange) with championship final being hosted on a rotating basis.
Revenue from tournament games/TV deals is to be divided equally among the conferences (just like NCAA Basketball).
Fundamental question is whether every Div-I school should have a chance to win the championship. If not, then-NCAA-needs-to-call-it-like-it-is-and-only-have-BCS-conference-schools-play-for-national-championship.
This tournament format allows only 2 teams the chance of playing 15 games a season(max). Tourney-games-begin-week-after-Thanksgiving-with-Championship-game-being-played-around-New-Year's-day.
Whatever the format, Div-I College Football needs to settle everything ON THE FIELD. Line-up, hit-each-other-in-the-mouth-and-whoever's-left-standing-at-the-end-is-the-national-champion. Sounds simple enough.
I hear excuses about its television contract and now excuses about its ability to find a bowl opponent. Sounds as though they never looked beyond the PAC 5 team eventhough this was shaping up to be a great year for the champion.
BYU with its tradition, broad fan base across the country, and resources can do much better. What does the Mountain West offer any of it teams?
Its too bad Utah is not the undefeated conference champion at 10 and 2. Its fans would not stand for this treatment. They would complain loudly!
Surely the seniors look forward to this opportunity.
Who knows which coach will bring a new UCLA offense into Provo next season? At least the cougars will face a UCLA team with known characteristics when they meet again in Las vegas.
Remember Fans, should Texas dump Hawaii, BYU could enter 2008 with the nations longest winnning streak, plus a bowl win over PAC 10. Should be good for a preseason Top Twenty slot. Whip UCLA and Washinton coming out of the chute and the Cougars should be BCS bound, perhaps undefeated.
BYU needs to remember that if they had actually beat UCLA, they probably would have been ranked much sooner and much higher by now and would have their glorious bowl on public television.
But the fact remains that they crumbled to this "weak" team. It's ironic that the statistics for the BYU-UCLA game show that BYU was weaker and yet their the ones complaining. Are you scared?
My take is Dick was hired to boost the Blue. He's doing that. You don't like it, read about BYU in the Trib. But that's his job.
As for playing UCLA, my take is Bronco will play whomever whenever (except Sundays and Monday nights). I don't think he's afraid of any team. Folks seem to forget that different players are in uniform every season. Comparing years is pretty much fruitless except for win-loss records by which coaches are judged.
Look at the mess accross the board. There aren't five interestig bowl matchups, all because the bowls signed agreements for opponents years in advance. We knew that we would play the 5th place PAC team before the season started. Our stupid conference officials should have screamed about that matchup a long time ago but they had their heads up their mtn. This lady and her committee screwed up long ago!
We need a playoff in at this level of football but the big boys won't let it happen unless it is a 1+ playoff that excludes all but the BSC elites.
Don't tell me the BCS worked this year. There should be no National Champion doe this season! Or at least lets make the basketball champion, the football champion by default. Heck it worked last year!
3 Games at differnet locations, and UCLA team that may be coached by a differents coach in each game. Same Team? Not Really.
I keep hoping someone will notice we are moving in the wrong direction and do something about it.
Utah got Navy now that will be a gem. If Utah would have beat Byu they sure would have picked Boise State or Oregon. A 6 and 6 team like the bruins would not even make the cut.
Kind of like it would be difficult to get excited about a bowl game with a team from our conference.
That being said, I look forward to the game and hope that BYU can even up the score with UCLA this year.
The other item I hear all the time is that we need to jump ship and go to a BCS conference -- yes this will bring more money, and perhaps give us some better recruits, but remember there are a lot of teams in the BCS (UCLA is one of them) that lose a lot of games despite this "recruiting" and "money" advantage.
don't think UCLA and Vegas are gonna give us the "cherries" on this one.
Woops. Sorry I gave this newspaper the idea.
Interesting article.
Another point to press is that had BYU beaten UCLA earlier, then they would not have to face UCLA now...would it?
We like to hear the Utes, then BSU, and now Hawaii get a little coin, a little jingle in the pocket.
When you have spent all of it on trinkets and beads, we will still have some stashed away.
That's what programs with winning traditions do.
Talk big today mighty Honolulu Warrior, but last place Washington was up on you 28 - 0, and their record is 2-7 in the PAC 10, and you would have been playing in the Hawaii Bowl again.
(Is it lame playing in a bowl created in your stadium, chosen just for you?)
1. The "dismal post-season record" is a result of Lavell's teams feeling like the bowl game was the reward for a good season, not another game to play.
2. BYU will have to be ranked in the top 20 to start next year, after beating UCLA in the LVB. And that ranking will increase when we beat them a second consecutive time in provo
signed
Nota Fact
I come from a BYU/Utah split family. I bleed a double-shot of red when Utah looses to BYU like it has over the last two years, and more so like the Utes did in the 80's. I will gladly root for both teams this December, believing that wins by both teams is mutually good for them both and the MWC.
Lets just hope the MWC officials and presidents negotiate better bowl deals and TV packages. But in the end coaches, players and fans have got to be more big league if we want to be big league.
The entire nation will be tuned in and on seats edge for that nail-bitter.
"The general public will be able to purchase up to six tickets. Tickets are $75 each, which includes internet ticketing fees, shipping & handling, and a small premium to enhance the football program."
did you notice the "small premium to enhance..."
Keep that in mind when Mendenhall wants a less competative schedule. What do they intend to enhance because the games are already as interesting as watching paint dry. I refuse to pay anthing more to watch them play bo-diddly tech. Unbelievable.
- Page:
- < Previous
- 1
- 2
- 3
Add your comment
Comments are monitored. Any comments found to be abusive, offensive, off-topic, misrepresentative, more than 200 words or containing URLs will not be posted.
E-mail address: For internal use only. We may want to contact you to publish your comment (not your e-mail address) in the newspaper or for a separate story idea.
- Woman arrested in gun thefts case 2:43 p.m.
- Trial set for former Mapleton official 2:39 p.m.
- Big spending measure riles GOP 2:38 p.m.
- Wilson not running for re-election 2:37 p.m.
- Utah Co. freeway should last 40 years 2:35 p.m.
- Carnivorous dino discovery at U. 2:31 p.m.
- BYU's Unga weighing his options 2:30 p.m.
- Stocks rise as trade deficit narrows 2:25 p.m.
- Austria passes gay civil unions bill 2:24 p.m.
- McGrady on pace for All-Star game 2:03 p.m.
- Nude bathers cited for lewdness
- Crash landing next to I-15
- Few details on missing W.V. mom
- Palin signs books, chats with fans
- Jazz fall apart late at L.A.
- I-15 expansion barreling south
- Panel passes BCS playoff bill
- BCS = power conference monopoly
- Y.'s Emery bruised, but rarely beaten
- Mutated version of H1N1 found
- Letters: Global warming a lie
253 - TCU to play Boise in Fiesta Bowl
206 - BYU football: Bronco weighs in on Hall
192 - Cougars going back to Vegas
150 - Utah/BYU rivalry can be more civil
148 - Andersen apologizes for Jordan hoax
142 - Palin signs books, chats with fans
142 - Max Hall wants to look ahead
123 - Revive full food tax?
104 - Panel passes BCS playoff bill
101
The basketball team put together its best effort in trouncing Michigan.
Four WAC schools earned invitations to bowl games this year and, since...
Kealia Ohai recently earned some national recognition ...
My advice Harvey, STAY IN SCHOOL! Think about it, look at those who came out...
This is beyond silly. Where is the common sense with the prudes? Did...
Some of your emails from England were leaked a few weeks ago.
Give me a break! I'm a big Cougs fan and bigger Unga fan, but get real. This...
Congrats on being on the wrong side of history, twice. Collusion to keep...
Although the young choir members graduate and are replaced with others year...
MJ's spokesperson (Estee Portnoy, who has coordinated his schedule and...
Wait a second.A group of forest workers are relaxing in the hot pools at...
Better clueless, then classless. Cewgs will roll the pukes soon enough!
This is GREAT! Someone else - other than the UBA who offer SPARQ, baseball...



If a team does lousy the coach is the first to be blamed and fired. If a conference goes from bad to worse, you have to blame the guy at the helm, the Commisioner. I think that would be a great place to start to try and fix this mess and conference.
Keep in mind there are a couple of good teams in the conference that get absolutely no recognition i.e.,BYU, UTAH, AIR FORCE and maybe TCU. Blame TV deals all you want, but you have to blame the guy at the head of the snake.
Coach's Mendenhall, Whittingham, AF Coach and TCU coaches can field decent teams but that certainly isn't going to fix the national exposure problems.
Get rid of the Commissioner or form a new conference!!