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Moving forward? Jazz's Kirilenko, Sloan try to clear air
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jazz fan | 6:49 a.m. Oct. 2, 2007
That is the problem - Williams doesn't get Kirilenko the ball. He shoots
too much and only passes to Boozer. Boozer is a good player, but he isn't
the team. Kirilenko plays good defense and then watches Boozer and Williams
take all the shots on the other end. That would never happen with Stockton.
Hey, jazz fan | 7:36 a.m. Oct. 2, 2007
Yeah, but have you ever had a whiny, worthless teammate like Kirilenko? All this
sympathy around Kirilenko angers the blood. And to think that we spent all that
money on Kirilenko. That's hogwash!! I was on my way to the market to
purchase a Kirilenko jersey for my son. But when I got to the store, I noticed
something peculiar about the Kirilenko jerseys...they stink!!! And they always
will!!
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Hey Jazz Fan | 8:01 a.m. Oct. 2, 2007
I do remember Williams averaging about 9 assists per game and not every pass was
going to Boozer. Who do you think got most of Stockton's passes? Karl
Malone. Williams is one of the best up and coming guards in the league and if he
said he is going to try and get AK more touches, I think he will do his best to
stick to his word.
ID Jazz | 8:16 a.m. Oct. 2, 2007
Kirilenko got the ball plenty jazz fan and Stockton passed to players who were
in scoring position not a guy standing twenty feet from the basket who cannot
dribble or shoot from there. Why do some you supposed jazz fans want to blame
everyone but AK. Is it not crazy that we are blameing a coach and player for the
unhappiness of one person in a year that we went to the Western Conference
Finals. So does that mean we are blameing them for makeing it to the WCF? If so
all blame them all the way to the finals this year.
I see Williams Sloan, Miller, and teammates saying they will do what it takes to have him be apart of the team and are trying to do so but AK says he still feels the same and that is that he does not want to be here. At some point in time AK needs to step up to the plate and also acknowlege that he is also willing to do what it takes. If his attitude does not change no teammate will pass to him.
" I wouldn't"
I see Williams Sloan, Miller, and teammates saying they will do what it takes to have him be apart of the team and are trying to do so but AK says he still feels the same and that is that he does not want to be here. At some point in time AK needs to step up to the plate and also acknowlege that he is also willing to do what it takes. If his attitude does not change no teammate will pass to him.
" I wouldn't"
Jazz Fan are you sure? | 8:26 a.m. Oct. 2, 2007
I'm not sure you are a Jazz fan you sound like a Stockton fan, maybe.
Williams is not a ball hog, he does not shoot too much and is one of the best up
and coming PGs in the league, no he is one of the best PGs in the league right
now. He's also a very smart PG who makes the pass to the person who has
the best chance of putting the ball in the basket. One of the biggest knocks on
#12 was that he didn't shoot enough. Dwill has a great feel and mix of
pass and shoot, shooting enough when needed and passing enough when needed and
enough to be in the top 3 in assists. If anyting the Jazz need to get Booz the
ball more often, the guy is a beast in the low block and a much better option
than AK will ever be. I hope the Jazz can make AK feel warm and fuzzy so that
he can compete but I really hope it doesn't take away from what the Jazz
are doing and from Booz and the other go to guys.
get a translator | 8:49 a.m. Oct. 2, 2007
Maybe the Jazz should hire a Russian translator that also speaks Illinois farm
boy English so Kirilenko and Sloan can really understand each other and put this
in the past. The translator could smooth over Sloans negative language and make
it into a compassionate Russian translation. The two would become great friends
and the Jazz would be unstoppable with the team they had last year and a
reenergized Kirilenko. Maybe his wife never gave him a free pass, the translator
could tell us more about that. GO JAZZ and GO AK47
A real jazz fan | 8:56 a.m. Oct. 2, 2007
No wonder williams wouldnt give him the ball he wanted to win. Which we did
most of the time, and williams is one of the, if not the best, PG in the NBA.
And i think his best is yet to come. So who cares about AK if he wants to be
whinny so be it but if he wants to buck and play real ball then the jazz could
really use him.
Anonymous | 9:56 a.m. Oct. 2, 2007
LETS SHOW SOME SUPPORT!!! QUIT TRYING TO COMPLICATE THINGS ALL YOU GOOD FOR
NOTHING BLOGGERS!!! GO SLOAN, GO KIRILENKO, GO JAZZ!!!! AND ALL OF YOU NEGATIVE
BAND-WAGON FANS...GO AWAY...WE DON'T NEED YOU!!!
Anonymous | 10:05 a.m. Oct. 2, 2007
AK needs a reliable jump shot off the pick and the ability to go quickly to the
basket inside without dribbling. Who better to learn from than Harpring and
Boozer.
Anonymous | 10:39 a.m. Oct. 2, 2007
Anonymous if you don't like the blogs then don't read them. Same with
your TV if you don't like the programming on a channel change it. This is
what you do on blogs you give your opinion does not mean its right, wrong or
indifferent.
I know people like you. You like to sweep everything under the carpet and then pretend that everything is peachy keen. Its not peachy keen in Jazz land and we like to blog about it. Its not hurting anyone so don't worry about it. Not sure who we is in "we don't need you" but I am sure most of the bloggers her don't need you.
I know people like you. You like to sweep everything under the carpet and then pretend that everything is peachy keen. Its not peachy keen in Jazz land and we like to blog about it. Its not hurting anyone so don't worry about it. Not sure who we is in "we don't need you" but I am sure most of the bloggers her don't need you.
ID Jazz | 10:41 a.m. Oct. 2, 2007
Anonymous if you don't like the blogs then don't read them. Same with your TV if you don't like the programming on a channel change it. This is what you do on blogs you give your opinion does not mean its right, wrong or indifferent.
I know people like you. You like to sweep everything under the carpet and then pretend that everything is peachy keen. Its not peachy keen in Jazz land and we like to blog about it. Its not hurting anyone so don't worry about it. Not sure who we is in "we don't need you" but I am sure most of the bloggers her don't need you.
carlos boozer | 10:52 a.m. Oct. 2, 2007
dear little russian friend AK
I really promise to play as a team with you, will you stop being a goose and commit yourself to this new seasson, so that we can make it to the finals and win a championship!!!
I really promise to play as a team with you, will you stop being a goose and commit yourself to this new seasson, so that we can make it to the finals and win a championship!!!
Anonymous | 10:55 a.m. Oct. 2, 2007
In response to ID Jazz...you make a good point, I just get sick of all the
negative crap all the time, however I realize that I was just contributing to
it...so sorry about that. I do think that there is something to be said for
being positive and creating some team/fan moral and enthusiasm. I could be
wrong, but it just seems that the majority of the comments are negative...if we
are passionate fine, but it seems that we are usually only passionate about the
negative...and that is scary.
Sokel | 11:03 a.m. Oct. 2, 2007
After reading Sloan's comments, the one element that stood clear is the
fact that Jerry Sloan is an honorable, honest man with integrity. I think he
has Kirilenko's best interests at heart. I believe
there is an entire Russian mindset that really is foreign to the United States. Kirilenko and even his wife must understand this. He is fortunate that he has the right to speak out.
there is an entire Russian mindset that really is foreign to the United States. Kirilenko and even his wife must understand this. He is fortunate that he has the right to speak out.
Don't really care | 11:14 a.m. Oct. 2, 2007
Another Karl? Good riddance AK - get thee back to Russia. We don't need
your whining.
JDub | 11:29 a.m. Oct. 2, 2007
Jerry Sloan is part of the problem, not the solution. The majority of this falls
on Andrei's shoulders, but Jerry's stubborn refusal to adapt to
today's game and players turned a relatively small problem into one that
will likely ruin the Jazz's championship aspirations. The best thing the
Jazz could do (they are to cowardly to do it, though) would be to fire Jerry
Sloan and get a coach capable of relating to today's players.
I know there are a lot of Sloan apologists out there that like his "old school" approach, but what has he ever won? A few regular season games? The man had two of the top 50 all-time players, and yet they still flamed out early in the playoffs more often than not.
As for Andrei, if there is one thing we have learned; its that he is too selfish to be trusted. The Jazz should do everything in their power to showcase him until December or January and then move him to an eastern conference team for whatever acceptable offer they can find.
I know there are a lot of Sloan apologists out there that like his "old school" approach, but what has he ever won? A few regular season games? The man had two of the top 50 all-time players, and yet they still flamed out early in the playoffs more often than not.
As for Andrei, if there is one thing we have learned; its that he is too selfish to be trusted. The Jazz should do everything in their power to showcase him until December or January and then move him to an eastern conference team for whatever acceptable offer they can find.
let him go | 11:34 a.m. Oct. 2, 2007
we dont need him here, let him play in the motherland, well find someone from
college to take his spot, who wont whine every second of the day, he doesnt
benifeit the team, except once or twice, a season
AK Sucks | 11:34 a.m. Oct. 2, 2007
AK is a has been baby. He needs to stop whining about not getting the ball, when
he gets the ball he does absolutely nothing. GET RID OF HIM! Let him play ball
in Russia, or wherever else he wants to go.
B Thayne | 11:49 a.m. Oct. 2, 2007
Obviously AK hasn't changed his attitude. His job performance last year was
spotty at best. There isn't any reason to keep a dissatisfied player. If
some one will take him he should be traded. His poor attitude will affect others
on the team.
ILVJAZZ | 11:55 a.m. Oct. 2, 2007
I have a problem with this so called D-WILL? This guy thinks he can run his
mouth whenever he wants. His resume is too short and he has really proven
nothing yet. One half of a good season and an invite for Team USA doesn't
give you clout to run your mouth. My advice is for Deron Williams to just shutup
and play the game. Anyone who wastes there time worrying to comment on the
" Skeleton" is just as lame as he is.
Good to hear | 12:03 p.m. Oct. 2, 2007
I am glad to hear Sloan saying the right things. AK is a good player most nights
and when motivated he is a great player. I hope he is able to figure things out
and work well in the Utah system. If he starts not producing then we need to
take a serious look at other options.
NorthernFan | 12:06 p.m. Oct. 2, 2007
Here's an idea... Hire the Russian National Coach as a team
consultant/assistant coach. He could work direclty with AK and the new Russian
rookie and at the same time learn some of C. Sloans coaching insight. It could
be a Win/Win situation...
ID Jazz | 12:11 p.m. Oct. 2, 2007
Anonymous I understand where you are coming from and appreciate your honest
response.
I think for all the the negative stuff to go away Andrei really needs to bite his lip and make an effort to be happy and not complain out loud in the press.
I must say it is dicourageing to hear that Sloan and Williams are willing to make an effort and then Andrei say that his feelings have not changed. Hopefully training camp will work out all the hard feelings.
I think for all the the negative stuff to go away Andrei really needs to bite his lip and make an effort to be happy and not complain out loud in the press.
I must say it is dicourageing to hear that Sloan and Williams are willing to make an effort and then Andrei say that his feelings have not changed. Hopefully training camp will work out all the hard feelings.
RE northern fan | 12:20 p.m. Oct. 2, 2007
I agree either get a russian translator or hire the russian national coach as a
consultant. Then AK does have any excuses, and if he does or any other overpaid
barbarian let's stop watching and make them get real jobs. Most would be in
jail, and the lucky ones could sell shoes
Anonymous | 12:30 p.m. Oct. 2, 2007
Both Sloan and AK need to get their act together. AK needs to understand that in
America where much is given much is expected. Go practice your jump shot AK then
shut up and play. Darin will pass you the ball if he has confidence you can
shoot. Sloan needs to change his rigid offense a bit to fit AK's skills
around the basket. It does no good to try to force a square peg in to a round
hole.
Jazz-Man | 1:15 p.m. Oct. 2, 2007
Let's be real about one thing!
Jerry Sloan is about consistency. If something is inconsistent in creating good opportunities - then that hurts the team. The pick & roll is consistent, D-Wills penetration is consistent, Booze in the low post is consistent, & Memo's three (with the exception of last years playoffs) is consistent.
There is not much consistency in AK's offensive game at all. If you run the same plays for him in 5 games-he may only succeed in 2 or 3 games. AK has been in the system for 7 years, he needs to get better within the system & better in individual skills to help him score.
If you have no jumper, players will back off of you, if you can't get to the basket, players will crowd you. The other teams know every strenghth & weakness. That is why AK must improve on his all-around game. He has to aquire some go to moves & a couple of shots that are effective.
Jerry Sloan is about consistency. If something is inconsistent in creating good opportunities - then that hurts the team. The pick & roll is consistent, D-Wills penetration is consistent, Booze in the low post is consistent, & Memo's three (with the exception of last years playoffs) is consistent.
There is not much consistency in AK's offensive game at all. If you run the same plays for him in 5 games-he may only succeed in 2 or 3 games. AK has been in the system for 7 years, he needs to get better within the system & better in individual skills to help him score.
If you have no jumper, players will back off of you, if you can't get to the basket, players will crowd you. The other teams know every strenghth & weakness. That is why AK must improve on his all-around game. He has to aquire some go to moves & a couple of shots that are effective.
clem | 2:06 p.m. Oct. 2, 2007
jazz-man,AMEN.
Rich | 2:49 p.m. Oct. 2, 2007
I admire Sloan because he demands hustle and hard work, good team defense and
good offensive execution. That's why he is one of the most winningest
coaches in history. He has made the most of many players, who did almost nothing
once they left the team. He made it to the finals twice with no lottery picks,
losing only to another team with two All Stars and members of the NBA's top
50 ever. Unfortunately one of those Bulls got a lot of calls. Too bad our top
scorer couldn't handle the pressure of making foul shots in the Finals.
Perhaps five other coaches have adjusted as well as Sloan as the NBA game has
evolved over the past 20 years. If AK were as outstanding as LeBron, I might
agree that it would be time to get a new coach. If Sloan were to go to
Cleveland and take DWill with him, the Cavs would win the whole tamale.
Yakov Smirnoff | 2:53 p.m. Oct. 2, 2007
In Russia, basketball plays you.
Agrees with Jazz-Man | 3:00 p.m. Oct. 2, 2007
See above...
jazz Best fan in Kanab,Utah | 3:05 p.m. Oct. 2, 2007
The medea is the promlem . Tom don't know how to tell the truth.
Joe | 3:31 p.m. Oct. 2, 2007
So people think Jerry is the problem; that he hasn't adapted to the modern
game. Let's think about that for a minute. Does San Antonio play this
modern game (whatever that means)? Or Houston? Or Dallas under Avery Johnson? Or
Detroit? Or the Lakers? Or Miami? Or Cleveland?
The best teams in the NBA start by playing intense team defense and usually run structured, controlled half-court offenses. They take the fast breaks when they can but they have the ability to execute in the half court. The casual fan would probably view the best teams in the NBA as boring.
Boy, that description seems to fit the Jazz pretty well. The bottom line is that Jerry coaches the old style which is also happens to be the modern style. He coaches the type of basketball that at least gives his teams a chance to win a championship.
Those who love Phoenix and Golden State: Come back with your weak stuff when a team like that wins a championship.
The best teams in the NBA start by playing intense team defense and usually run structured, controlled half-court offenses. They take the fast breaks when they can but they have the ability to execute in the half court. The casual fan would probably view the best teams in the NBA as boring.
Boy, that description seems to fit the Jazz pretty well. The bottom line is that Jerry coaches the old style which is also happens to be the modern style. He coaches the type of basketball that at least gives his teams a chance to win a championship.
Those who love Phoenix and Golden State: Come back with your weak stuff when a team like that wins a championship.
Fed UP | 4:05 p.m. Oct. 2, 2007
Trade the BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
America do not understand | 5:06 p.m. Oct. 2, 2007
Andrei is good man and wants to play basketball for his best. Let him be and
play where he can be the best. Utah not the best place for hime.
Texas Ute | 5:29 p.m. Oct. 2, 2007
Go Spurs Go
montana fan | 6:12 p.m. Oct. 2, 2007
bottom line...it's not rocket science AK has to deal with. the idea here is
to throw a bag of wind through an iron hoop. if he's paid alot of money to
do that, it's up to him, not sloan, to work on ways to accomplish throwing
the bag of wind through the iron hoop, right. coach sloan can't do it for
him, although, i'm sure sloan is more capable of outscoring AK even though
he's 186 yrs old, in dog years.
kman | 6:45 p.m. Oct. 2, 2007
Go Spurs Go?? what was that??...
Any way i think this situation its all done, AK will be in Jazz uniform for a couple more years he will get more "touches" to the ball and he'll be a happy jazzman.
Any way i think this situation its all done, AK will be in Jazz uniform for a couple more years he will get more "touches" to the ball and he'll be a happy jazzman.
Fan Up North | 6:49 p.m. Oct. 2, 2007
Lets give Jerry a chance to do what he's trying to do. AK has proven
himself a great player. Lets see if they can come together and get it done and
not get too eager to pull the plug. We listened to karl Malone whine for years,
but seemed to forget it at game time. The media needs to back off.
Rog | 6:49 p.m. Oct. 2, 2007
Based on last years performance and attitude AK should definately have been gone
this season. The secret to the Jazz getting to the finals is for everyone to
play team ball and not to give a hoot as to who gets the credit for the win. But
I guarantee if that ball gets into Boozer enough the Jazz will win. Boozer may
not show the style of some other forwards but he will always get the job done.
He still remains very much underrated. In my opinion he is the most affective
forward in the league.
Marc Titcomb | 6:57 p.m. Oct. 2, 2007
A very thorough article and I must say that I agree that Kirilenko is an asset
for the success of the Jazz. A note to the writer or editor of this might want
to look at "unfaze" used somewhere in the middle of the article. It
seemed to grab my attention and I was confused at whether the writer or online
editor was really trying to put "not to be phased" or something of the
sort. Again, not a big issue, but just something I noticed.
rockdog | 7:48 p.m. Oct. 2, 2007
The Jazz need Sloan and the Jazz need AK for defence with out AK defence the
Jazz would not of made it pass the first round last year. The Jazz have a great
team second best team in NBA last year give ak a few more shots have him play
great D and lets win a tidal. spurs are last years news
JEFF T | 8:35 p.m. Oct. 2, 2007
Kirilenko doesn't have an issue with Sloan, he has an issue with Williams.
It didn't take a pro scout, last year, to see that Williams and Kirilenko
had problems with each other on the court. Andrei never got the ball on a fast
break from Williams, even after making a stellar play on the defensive end. If
Williams would just reward great defensive plays by getting the ball to the
defensive playmaker on the resulting fast break, this one thing would go a long
way to making Kirilenko happy. Kirilenko probably won't touch it much in a
half court set. He doesn't need to to be happy in my opinion. If he would
just get rewarded offensively for great defense, he'd be happy
ID Jazz | 9:17 p.m. Oct. 2, 2007
Common Jeff T what are you talking about. Again someone trying to blame Williams
or Sloan for AKs lack of offensive skills. He was rewarded on fast breaks where
he was the best option. If he didn't get the ball it was because if you
passed to him at a point where he needed to dribble then it was stolen from him
or dribbled out of bounds and if you had to pass to him on the wing he could not
hit the jumper. Knowing this if you had Harpering and AK running out on a fast
break in that situation who you going to pass it to.(Harpering)Good shooter and
free throw shooter. When he was under the basket open the ball was passed to him
everytime. As the point guard and teammate you know players strengths and
weaknesses and make choices accordingly. Makeing it to the Western Conference
Finals I say Williams made the right choices. It is up to AK to get better at
shooting, dribbling, and passing in so doing he will bring confidence to himself
as well as his point guard and teammates which get him more touches.
AK-47 Fan | 9:39 p.m. Oct. 2, 2007
Thnx JEFF T you nailed it. Jazz D-Will has attitude worst than AK. I know AK
has quick mouth. he needs to understand think before say something, rather than
constantly reacting to new demands on your time. We'll see after D-Will get
his MAX contract it's gonna be interesting!!! We'll see...
Sloan is Sloan that's all you can say. Winningst coach without title. In this blog almost nobody supporting their team. I'm just Ak fan. As long he plays for Jazz I'll support Jazz. Go AK MVP
Sloan is Sloan that's all you can say. Winningst coach without title. In this blog almost nobody supporting their team. I'm just Ak fan. As long he plays for Jazz I'll support Jazz. Go AK MVP
Gretzky | 10:16 p.m. Oct. 2, 2007
Time for Sloan to retire. He cannot handle the youngsters anymore. They whine
and complain so much that it overwhelms Sloan. Miller should sell the team as
well. Utah is too small a market for the NBA to ever allow him to win a
championship. As we found out in the off season, the NBA is rigged as the refs
make the calls to sway the games the way the Commissioner wants them to play
out. Only the NHL remains viable as a professional sport. Go Rangers!!!
Ramble | 10:27 p.m. Oct. 2, 2007
AK's biggest thrill was being a all star. He
realizes he will never get the opportunity again the way things are going. I think thats his biggest
problem.
realizes he will never get the opportunity again the way things are going. I think thats his biggest
problem.
Mike | 10:28 p.m. Oct. 2, 2007
Evetone is trying to blame this on either AK or Sloan/D-Will. In truth, all
three are to blame(but I think AK is going about this in the wrong way). D-Will
did pass up on AK on multiple occasions, but he was just doing what he thought
was best for the team. Sloan is pretty critical of AK, but he has said he will
try to get AK more involved and happier. AK doesn't have a good work
ethic, therefore loosing the trust of his point gaurd. From the article,
everyone but AK is saying the right things. They will try to help AK out and
get him involved and happy. We'll just have to wait and see how that
translates into the game. I hope that the Jazz can have a happy and energetic
AK playing hard every game. The scary part is that AK's attitude seems to
be that he's already given up on the Jazz....
Brandon | 10:30 p.m. Oct. 2, 2007
Whoever said "time for Sloan to retire" obviously doesn't
understand the game of basketball and needs to keep his pointless comments to
himself. Sloan IS the Utah Jazz. Go vent somewhere else, Gretzky.
TucsonUte | 10:54 p.m. Oct. 2, 2007
Sloan retire....right! Gretzky stick with the hockey gig. Most NBA owners
would love to have Sloan coaching their teams. Someone like Jerry Sloan comes
around once every 25 years and the Jazz were lucky enough to get him. He might
not be Phil Jackson but he knows how win a few ball games. Being in Utah has
been problematic at times for him trying the get that final piece of the puzzle
for a championship.
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O'Connel had better start now trying to find a point gaurd who can play two gaurd to trade AK for. In fact, with AK's salary I bet we could add a couple more guys to the lineup who could play two gaurd. It doesn't even need to be their natural position. All they need to do is to be able to keep Lebron, Kobe, Arenas, Ray and Redd under 60 points
Is Earl Boykins available? We could put him and Williams on the floor at the same time, couldn't we?