By Lafe Peavler
and Justin Giles
and Brandon Judd, Deseret News
Published: Thursday, Nov. 28 2013 11:21 p.m. MST
Amazing how BYU and Utah State seniors get another game after this weekend.
However, Utah players don't. Go Cougars!
Stay classy, Omaha.I'm sure I join thousands in thanking all of
these guys for what they've done over the last few years of their lives.
For the vast majority of them, high profile football will have been just a blip
on their life's radar, but it's the only way we came to know who they
were.For the Utes, I personally got to know a lot of these guys
while I was in school, and it will hard to see them leave the program after
tomorrow. For the Cougs and Ags, I met a couple of these guys prior to college
and it's nice to be able to see how they've developed. Every one of
them deserves more respect than silly posts like the one above. To all 63 of
these players, congratulations and thank you!
@ Cougar_IndependenceIt's amazing how BYU's seniors have
never beaten Utah in their college careers. In fact, the Utah State seniors have
beaten Utah more than BYU's seniors have.
Amazing how y'all in Utah argue and fight over which pathetic FB program is
better, when you're all fishing in the backyard creek.Our HS
team could probably give all 3 of your programs a good game.
A little premature for this article. Utah plays for the Third Annual Bottom of
the Basement this week while the other two will continue to play afterwards.
J-TX,BYU easily dispatched of the best of the best HS players
from Texas to play for Texas the last 4 years. Bring on your little HS team!
So J-TX, Do you consider University of Texas as one of your high school teams
down there? That would be the one that BYU embarrased?!! And this is not the
only time a Utah team beat a major college from Texas. So have a little
Good luck to all the seniors! It's been fun watching you.
Sad to see the huge chips are still on the shoulders of the small minded. Time
to move on I suppose.
Utah had some tough circumstances this year; Travis Wilson's multiple
adversity issues, key injuries, a new OC, close losses, and three tragic deaths
within the program. With all that said, going 5-7 is not acceptable. I support Whittingham but another season like this one and that could
change.Still, as fans from the instate schools, let's be fair
when accessing the our relative teams. Some BYU fans think going bowling makes
them superior but the schedules are unbalanced and not comparable.On
the flip side, I understand arguments from the blue that Utah beating BYU head
to head doesn't simply make Utah better. Yes, one game makes not a season
and match ups and things come into play. I try to be fair.Here is my
take. BYU has the better record and has played good teams. But they also play 5
patsies. BYU beat the teams they should have plus a big win over Texas. The
other big match ups were losses. Utah's best win (Stanford) was
better than the Texas win. Remember head to head in Provo as well. But Utah
Some BYU fans could realize that being in a major conference is a big jump from
the MWC. And not just for Utah. Look at TCU for example. Like Utah, they are
also 4-7 this year and were 7-6 in their first year in the BIG 12 last year.
Since the MWC days until right now, BYU is third in record comparison head to
head with Utah and TCU.BYU played some tough teams this year but
half of their schedule was weak AGAIN. The Cougers lost to the better teams
minus Texas and beat the teams they should. With a PAC 12 schedule or Big 12
schedule, it's logical to think BYU is on the couch for bowl season as
well. BYU beat USU after Keaton went down in the first quarter. They
made their long contract with Boise State at the right time as Boise has been
dipping the last couple of seasons after a ten year run of solid QB play. Nevada, Middle Tennessee and Idaho State are the weakest of opponents.
GT, Virginia, and Houston are below any PAC 12 opponent Utah plays except
Colorado.Playing bigger schools mixed in with lesser ones is not
comparable. Football is a war of attrition.
Utah was 17-6 against BCS schools from 2000-2010. Since then, reality sets in
for Utah fans when playing the big boys every week. BYU fans might want to learn
this in order to be be fair and balanced (pun intended) to their favorite
J-TX BYU VS Texas Remind me who won that game.
gdog3finallyThe Utes got exactly what they asked for when they
agreed to become a well-paid PAC 12 doormat, so stop whining.Bronco
is 9-8(53%) versus PAC teams.Kyle is 12-21(36%) versus PAC teams.It's obvious which team is only a pretender, and which team would
actually be a contender in the PAC.
Those football players that put forth the effort everyday in practice including
the scout teamsmade for some really special football games. The seniors
stepped up and contributed big time for BYU,USU, and Utah.Three games really
stick out BYU vs Texas, Utah vs Oregon State and Utah State vs USC they were
classics win or lose because excellence was there.
@clarkIt's amazing how some of these utah sr's, like
palepoi, have never had a winning record and never played in a bowl game in
their entire utah careers. In fact BYU's sr's will play in more bowl
games this year than many of the utah sr's have in their entire careers.
Thank you, to all of the Utah seniors for their part in getting the Utes into
the PAC 12 and for their domination byu.Had byu joined a major
conference 3 years ago...Today holmoe and mendenhall would be coaching
highschools somewhere in California.
Ekute, u just proved everyone's point. The only thing u really care about
is beating BYU. Congrats on signing your 10 years deal with the no bowl. That is
something to really look forward to. I can't wait to see the u fall into an
even bigger hole than they are in already. All the other teams in Utah will
demand a two for one and the u will still have no rival as they year by year
try to stay out of the basement of their conference of chumps. Enjoy your past
experience at the late BCS bowl because with the new rules, u will never see
another one. LOL
defibman,Your claim was disproven when Dr. Hill removed byu from
Utah's schedule. Now the byu games are important to nobody.
It is amazing to me to see someone knocking a team from Logan who found a way to
win even without their starting qb.... A starting QB that nearly beat his rival
on week one of the season... After getting hammered in Logan Conference weekend
what was USU's record? Yes, they are no OSU, they are no Michigan, no
Alabama or Auburn... But of the three teams in Utah of clout they are the only
one with a legitimate shot at being good for the long haul. BYU will simply be
BYU as they ever have been save for one 3 year stretch of stunning near
perfection and Utah... Well, I don't see them coming back out on top...
Maybe on a PAC-12 off year they will get to have some fun in the grand
tournament of Roses... But nationally, I don't figure they will ever be in
contention again. The two year hiatus from RES and the minion nation will be
well appreciated. Yes, 'our' senior class never beat the Utes... But,
need I remind you that Several senior classes in a row never beat the Cougars
either... Football is a system of streaks... Just enjoy this streak you were on,
for it ends in 2016!
Loved the smack comments regarding J-TX's reference to Allen TX HS (I lived
there 20 years, my kids graduated there). They're perennially one of the
top 5 teams in the country the last several years. One thing I've missed
moving back to UT is super high quality HS football. I went to the 2 top
division championship games here, and there is no comparison. It's not
remotely close. Still, it was awesome to watch BYU blow out Texas.
@ DuckhunterSome of those Utah seniors that you speak of have never
lost to BYU in their college careers. You and your fellow kitty cat
fans have no room to talk smack to your rival that has beaten your team 4 years
in a row and 9 of the last 12 games. Let's also not forget that
BYU has lost to two conference bottom dwellers (Utah and Virginia). Conference
bottom dwellers according to BYU standards that your fellow cougar fans like to
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