22 Reasons why Star Wars is better than Star Trek

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Star Wars has the bigger fan base, and thus the bigger impact on society. While J.J. Abrams managed to introduce the younger generations to Star Trek, Star Wars doesn't have to be introduced, it's just there, always lurking in the background of pop culture.

While the Internet is rife with enclaves of Star Trek fans, and many a prominent scientist will geek out about Star Trek, in the end, Star Wars is the common man's "star" themed movie series.

A more measurable way to look at it; there are 12 Star Trek movies from the big screen. There are six Star Wars movies for the big screen (not counting "The Clone Wars," though I did enjoy that). Star Trek has managed $2,133,119,700 worldwide when adjusted for inflation for the entire series. Star Wars has made $4,277,000,000 worldwide when adjusted for inflation.
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Mugs
Idaho Falls, Idaho

"Hands down, any day of the week, anytime, anywhere, Darth Vader reigns supreme."

Lol. Yeah, like he could handle Q. Heck, even Gandalf could handle Darth Vader.

evansrichdm
west jordan , UT

Thank enjoined this quit a bit.

Now to bring a fight into my marriage, I will have my wife read this.

Good thing we have Star Gate that brings us together in the geek world.

Civil
Salt Lake City, UT

Please, please, PLEASE, JJ, don't do to Star Wars what what you did to "Into Darkness." While extremely clever and well written, it was 10% too long, 10% too loud, 10% too violent making it 70% of what it could've been. Just pull it back a little this time, please.

Red Headed Stranger
Billy Bobs, TX

Really?

I noticed that you left the following classic verbatim lines out of your list:

(Imagine this in the whiniest, can't get my way voice possible)

"But I was going into Tosche Station to pick up some power converters!"

"Around the survivors a perimeter create."

“Love won’t save you, Padme. Only my new powers can do that.”

"yub, yub"

"Hold me, like you did by the lake on Naboo.”

"You Rebel Scum"

"Nerf Herder. . .Laser Brain"

"Mesa day startin pretty okee-day with a brisky morning munchy, then BOOM! Gettin very scared and grabbin that Jedi and POW! Mesa here! Mesa gettin' very very scared!" Actually, EVERY word Jar Jar says.

Of course the line that evokes Shakespeare,

"NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!"

I am a fan of both franchises. You will probably find that most people who like one will enjoy the other. Making comparisons is unnecessary.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

Star Wars...better than Star Trek?

JarJar Binks
Ewoks
Pod racers

And for the record ---
JJ Abrams DESTROYED the Star Trek franchise, period!

and

I'll take the deep DEEP thinking, out of the box, provocative Star Trek TOS [The Original Series] with all it's 1960's cardboard TV sets and cheezy one-liners over all the movie magic SFX and lame story lines of the latest stuff anyday!

Star Trek NG [next Generation] is still my all-time Sci-Fi favorite.

Freeman Stevenson
In the land down under, UT

Yes, give in to your anger, mwhaha.

Also Red Headed Stranger, those power converters were VERY important.

CKS007
Clearfield, UT

And the next apples vs oranges debate will be....

CWEB
Orem, UT

The IDEA of Star Wars is better in some ways...but Lucas DESTROYED the Star Wars idea and films with the last three episodes. Total and dismal failure.

Here is the right story line: Luke's Father, was taken hostage by the dark side. He was cloned, and Darth Vadar was really not his father, but the first generation clone. The red warriors were first generation clones of the Jedi, and the further down the line, you end up with clones of clones for the white storm troopers.

As far as Jar Jar Binx sp? Really ? Please.

Star Trek, on the other hand, is the original deal. The development of the characters was much tighter as years went by, and now they are endeared to the fans. The original series was hog-tied by technology and budget. Now that money is on even terms for Trek and Wars, I'll take a well-done Trek film over whatever "Disney" is going to slaughter Wars with.

Wars is done. Trek will "live long and prosper".

Hank Pym
SLC, UT

What's next Why Marvel > DC?

Kaladin
Greeley, CO

The original Star Wars trilogy beats Star Trek hands down. No contest. Not even close. Unfortunately, Jar Jar and Episode II were so bad it brings the franchise down a significant notch. Hopefully JJ can rescue the franchise. Darth Vader = best villain ever (thank you JEJ). Yoda = much wiser than any Vulcan. Obi Wan = mentor. Han Solo = swag. Chewy = say anything against him and he'll rip your arms off. C3PO = annoying in a good way. Jar Jar = annoying in a bad way. R2D2 = amazing.
Kirk = punk. Picard = awesome. Data = pretty cool.
Star Wars wins

WRK
Riverton, UT

As a certain Dr. would say, you are all just so adorable.

Dr. Who: came before either franchise and still going strong (saving all of time none the less).

SlopJ30
St Louis, MO

I've been reasonably impressed with everything JJ Abrams has done, but I don't know if I'm ready to live in a world where the same guy is responsible for both the Star Trek and Star Wars series. They should have different feels, and I fear that's going away. I could be wrong, but at the very least I hope he stays away from overt homages/rip-offs of previous SW films. I was fine with "Into Darkness" until the direct references to "Wrath of Khan." It was just unnecessary.

Two things that make me laugh . . claims that Abrams "ruined" Trek and corresponding claims that TOS was a super-deep philosophical classic. It wasn't. I liked it plenty and have seen every episode 3-4 times, but it's just another show.

Final observation . . fears that Abrams will wreck SW imply that George Lucas didn't smash it all up real good already. You really think JJ can make worse films than the last three?? The absence of George Lucas alone makes the worst-case scenario for these movies about 50% better.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

SlopJ30
St Louis, MO

Oh come on?

That whole blowing up Vulcan so you can change all future events for a re-boot?
[BTW - red goop that is like black hole matriel could not be sucked into a syringe...even in the future.]

What about beaming into green coolant in a clear tube while in hyperspace ala,
Willey Wonka and the Chocolate Factory?

Captain Kirk is too over the top.
As a Veteran - he'd NEVER earn a commission even in the French army.

and not to be all negative,
Spock and McCoy played it - dead on.

=====

Star Wars IV - a new hope.
Best of them all, but all down here from there.

CWEB Orem, UT
Kudos to you --
That was the right story-line.
Why Lucas deviated reamins a complete and utter mystery to this very day.

[Why else would Luke Skywalker find HIS face inside of Darth Vader's helmet? ref Episode V, The Empire Strikes Back?]

Go Utes
Salt Lake City, UT

Totally agree. Star Wars beats Star Trek. That said, it was a great day when I discovered that there was room in my heart for both worlds. I used to think that to like one was to put down the other. Not so.

But if forced to choose, Star Wars any day. (Original trilogy, that is. I don't consider the prequels cannon.)

Speaking of the original trilogy, by the way, I noticed that the video clips were from the unaltered originals, not the Lucas-ruined special versions, etc. Thank you. I would actually probably enjoy the prequels a bit more had Lucas not felt the need to go and alter his earlier, superior work to conform to his later, inferior prequels.

Instereo
Eureka, UT

Let's see, Star Trek has more movies, more TV shows/episode, and it's obvious more thought put into the writing of the overall series because the ideas in the show have started to appear in our lives. I'm not saying Star Wars is bad, it has a lot of good ideas in the story telling as well but Star Trek pushes new and controversial topics before bringing us back to good human values. Star Wars basically exploits our feelings for the familiar with a new story line about good vs. evil. Star Trek is more complex and more like real life. You could almost say Star Trek is like the U and Star Wars like the Y.

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, UT

I think that some people will love the new Star Wars movies and some people will hate the new movies regardless. It's just a fact of life.

I am definitely a Star Wars fan, so I would have to say SW is better. That being said, there is something in this article I disagree with. I personally think episode II was worse than Phantom Menace. I think if we took a poll I would be in the majority with this one. I also think think that the Duel of the Fates in Phantom Menace is perhaps the best lightsaber duel of any of them in all the movies (followed by Battle of Heroes between Obi-Wan and Vader in ROTS and Luke's duel with Vader in ROTJ).

I completely agree with the statements about Jar Jar: an attempt at comic relief went too far and ultimately detracted from the whole thing. R2 is comic relief enough, along with Han's and Leia's bickering.

"You could almost say Star Trek is like the U and Star Wars like the Y." Exactly why Star Wars is better. :)

kiaoraguy
Provo, UT

We all need to get a life....

GW
Lindon, UT

22 reasons and you barely acknowledge that the Star Wars prequels exist. Are you serious about #16? The worst Star Wars movie is better than the worst Star Trek movie? I hope this was meant as a joke.

Star Trek has plenty of warts, but ONE HALF of the Star Wars movies are barely watchable. I'd even say cringeworthy!

The only way I could bear to watch AOTC again would be to skip each and every "love story" scene.

"I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating. And it gets everywhere." Just like Anakin. And George Lucas' edits.

Really though, I say enjoy what you like and hope that future additions to either franchise are worthwhile.

SlopJ30
St Louis, MO

LDS Liberal says: "Captain Kirk is too over the top."

You're saying Chris Pine's Kirk is over the top? As opposed to WILLIAM "Dramatic Pause" SHATNER?? I hope I'm misreading you.

"As a Veteran - he'd NEVER earn a commission even in the French army."

Sorry; your status as a veteran is irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Having done a tour in Iraq or wherever does not grant you extra cachet as a film critic.

As for the implausibility of events involving red goop, green coolant, yadda yadda yadda, my I direct you to virtually every other Star Trek episode/movie ever made. If I cared to take the time, it wouldn't be hard to come up with, say, 25 moments in TOS episodes that are equally as loony. I mean, Kirk teamed with Abraham Lincoln to fought Genghis Khan once. "Spock's Brain," anyone?

If we're being honest, "Star Trek: Implausibility" would be the most honest title for any of the Trek movies every produced. Again, I LIKE the movies, for the most part. I just don't get how you can think that elements from the new films are too out-there considering the series' history.

SCfan
clearfield, UT

I got one to check. Which franchise has the most alien species that speak perfect American English. That has always bugged me, but I guess it is better than having to read subtitles all the time. At least Star Trek I believe had some kind of translater system. Not sure about Star Wars.

And, for all the great stuff in Star Wars, how did anyone ever allow Jar Jar Binks to get past the editing room floor? Sometimes George Lucas script writing has been a little less mature, and more oriented to kids than the writers of Star Trek movies. JJ Abrams has done a pretty good job of taking Star Trek to places where the origional TV show had not gone before. I can't even watch the origional TV show now it is so crude in production values compared to the later TV shows and movies. Looking forward to any more Star Trek movies and the upcoming Star Wars episodes.

NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

Both are good.
Not a fan of alternate time lines. Why remake Kahn?
Star Trek TV series has shown many story lines, Romulans, Klingons, Dominion, Borg.....to build from.
Star Wars has the Empire and Rebels. I wonder how things would be had Star Wars become a TV series with spin-offs?

I will take a dozen or so doomsday machines and Borg cubes against the Empire fleet any day.

jeanie
orem, UT

It seem more scientists reference Star Trek than Star Wars. Just an observation.

Jamescmeyer
Midwest City, USA, OK

I agree that Star Wars is preferable to Star Trek, but for more subtle reasons.

Star Trek is a traditional science fiction story with fitting sci-fi themes and ideas. Exploration of space and the human condition, contemplation on life and its purpose, and futuristic idealism. It's nice, but it's almost ironically more out-of-touch with reality than Star Wars.

Star Wars is a more fundamentally archtypical story that merely happens to involve a science fiction setting, with socially engrained character molds and actual good and evil underneath the political deceptions and "force relativism" that the sith try to throw in against the Jedi order. It's more in-touch with the universal human condition and realities of what truly concerns mankind.

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