Why Syracuse mom killed her 2 daughters still unknown
Newly released reports provide clues and details, but few answers
A suicide note addressed to Ramsdell-Oliva's sister was discovered that "described why Kyler shot the two juvenile females and took her own life," but those details were not made public.
Johnson told police that his ex-fiance had attempted suicide a couple of times in the past "but was always able to get the help she needed," a report states. He said he could usually tell when she was getting to that point, and would "go back to the doctors and get her medication adjusted."
Johnson told police that he and Ramsdell-Oliva had problems off and on throughout their relationship. Just a few days before the shooting, the couple were driving and arguing about his boys when she "snapped and started screaming at him, pulling her hair and acting crazy," a report states. Ramsdell-Oliva then rolled down the window, threw her wedding ring out the window, climbed into the backseat of the car and continued to scream and pull her hair.
Johnson compared the incident "to a small child throwing a temper tantrum."
Johnson thought the situation was so bad that he drove to University Hospital. Ramsdell-Oliva calmed down, however, and the two talked in the car parked in front of the emergency room without ever going inside, he told police.
Johnson and Ramsdell-Oliva had not lived in the Syracuse house for very long. Kenadee, who was an eighth-grader at Syracuse Junior High School, had only been to school one day since moving into the area. Isabella, who was in first grade at Syracuse Elementary School, had been attending classes for about a week.
How to get help
SALT LAKE CITY — In Utah, crisis intervention starts with a phone call.
The CrisisLine is operated by the University Neuropsychiatric Institute is a 24-hour, seven-days-a-week service staffed by mental health professionals. The number is 801-587-3000.
The CrisisLine provides a wide array of assistance depending on what a person needs. It is also the Utah affiliate for the National Suicide Prevention Network Lifeline at 1-800-273-TALK (8255) and provides statewide assistance.
People in Salt Lake County undergoing mental health treatment can also call UNI's Warm Line, a recovery support line operated by certified peer specialists available daily from 3 p.m. to 11 p.m.
Certified peer specialists are people in recovery from their own mental health issues who have been trained to provide support and encouragement to individuals experiencing mental health crises. The Warm Line can be reached at 801-587-1055.
Sometimes people just need emotional support to help them through a rough patch in life. Other times, they need the help of community mental health or other supportive services in the community. The CrisisLine provides those referrals, too. Callers who live outside Salt Lake County are referred to services in their own areas.
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