Lawmakers to tackle the question: Can the poverty cycle be halted in Utah?

Published: Thursday, Jan. 31 2013 6:25 p.m. MST

"I think there's just a lack of recognition that there are two different populations that are in poverty, and they needed to be treated very differently one from the other," he said.

That's where the data set can help, said Rick Little, director of research and analysis for the Department of Workforce Services and author of the 2012 report.

"If we know, for example, a child we are serving today's own parents were also children on public assistance, the strategy how we might serve those households might vary," he said.

Little said he will be presenting his findings to researchers at the University of Utah and BYU to develop a greater understanding of what approaches might best help break the cycle of poverty.

The report, released in September, is an analysis of DWS clients ages 21 to 40 who received public assistance between 1989 and 2008.

While Utah's poverty rates are lower than those of many other states, the numbers of individuals in poverty has steadily risen here since 2000, Little said.

The report, which also included U.S. Census Bureau data, found that the longer adults were in poverty as children, the longer they are likely to be in poverty as adults.

Moreover, the more impoverished a person is during childhood, the more likely that person is to receive public assistance as an adult.

Gina Cornia, executive director of Utahns Against Hunger, said there is merit to a commission studying interventions related to public assistance programs.

Many people are in poverty due to low education attainment and little opportunity for job training, which means they typically earn low wages, Cornia said.

"Do they have access to training for trades? Are there apprenticeships? What are we doing to reduce poverty in terms of increasing families' incomes instead of blaming people for being poor or not working hard enough?" she asked.

A few concerns

Glenn Bailey, executive director of Crossroads Urban Center, a nonprofit organization that advocates for and serves low-income people, said Reid's approach raises concerns.

"We think the focus should be on helping people increase household income," Bailey said, "because if there are no poor parents, there are no poor kids. But the focus doesn't seem to be there. It seems to be, 'How do we save these children despite their parents?' And I think that's quite troubling."

Reid insists that parents will have an integral role in strategies and policies proposed by the commission. 

"We're not excluding parents at all. Everything we're doing will run through the parents," he said. "There's an accountability for them. (This would) help them recognize the importance of their role (as parents)."

Even so, Bailey said, he will approach the political discussion with "healthy suspicion." The commission's recommendations won't be known for at least another year, so the potential harm or benefit is difficult to assess.

Bailey said breaking the cycle of intergenerational poverty will require giving parents an opportunity, through job training or education, to earn higher incomes.

"That would be a better starting place than, 'How are we going to save these children, despite their crappy parents?'" he said.

Initially, some lawmakers were skeptical of Reid's vision for addressing intergenerational poverty. But as the data have become available, Reid's focus on children has garnered greater support among his legislative colleagues, he said.

"They called me up and said, 'Look, you're right. There is a problem here. It's not something we're really dealing with either at the state or the federal level, and we need to approach this differently.' And from that point on, they've been very, very supportive."

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