Gov. Gary Herbert wants new ethics panel, but says AG John Swallow doesn't need state investigation

"We need to adhere to the law. Whatever the law is, we as a state will adhere to it. Nobody is above the law," Herbert said. "I believe in the system. We've had a Civil War about seceding from the Union, and I think we know what the outcome of that was."

After the taping, the governor said he wanted to talk to members of the Utah Sheriff's Association, who sent a letter to President Barack Obama warning they "are prepared to trade our lives for the preservation of (the Constitution"s) traditional interpretation."

"I think it probably is an emotional knee-jerk reaction to the idea that Washington is somehow going to tell us what to do," Herbert said of the letter. "We have a process in place. Go to court. We don't have to have confrontations at the border."

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