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Groce talks about building toughness at Illinois

By David Mercer

Associated Press

Published: Saturday, April 7 2012 12:18 p.m. MDT

FILE - In this March 29, 2012 file photo, new Illinois men's basketball coach John Groce, right, laughs alongside athletic director Mike Thomas during Groce's introductory news conference in Champaign, Ill. Groce says he hasn't decided how he'll deal with the loss of 7-1 center Meyers Leonard to the NBA draft but says he doesn't want to add a player to his roster just to plug a hole.

The News-Gazette, Robin Scholz, File) MANDATORY CREDIT, Associated Press

CHAMPAIGN, Ill. — If there was a moment that got John Groce to Illinois, it might have been the instant when the buzzer sounded and Ohio upset Michigan in the NCAA tournament.

While everything around him in Nashville, Tenn., was chaos and the shrieks of the students on Court Street back in Athens, Ohio, overwhelmed the microphones on the cameras and phones they held high to capture the moment, Bobcat guard D.J. Cooper got to his teammates and put a lid on what was about to happen.

"Cooper grabbed the guys and said, 'Act like you've been there before.' He didn't want any celebration," Groce said. "Immediately. Because he knew."

Knew that if the 13th-seed Bobcats did the natural thing and went wild after the 65-60 win over Michigan, they'd be acknowledging they weren't supposed to win. And might not win again. The Bobcats, the coach said, controlled themselves, won another game and eventually took North Carolina to overtime in the Sweet 16 because of one quality.

"Those kids were so tough mentally," Groce said in an interview with The Associated Press in his new office at Illinois, where he is taking over for the fired Bruce Weber. "Coming back from deficits, not tying our effort on the defensive end to whether shots were going in on the offensive end, staying together, being unflappable."

If you asked Weber, fired after Illinois finished 17-15 following a 15-3 start, what one trait his team could have used, that same kind of toughness would be it. He said as much as the season slipped away, talking about what he said was his own failure to create a culture of toughness.

Groce says he wants to build that sort of culture: "Toughness and leadership in that area, of having a mentally tough guy to help the team, that's invaluable."

Illinois pursued bigger-name coaches — Shaka Smart and Brad Stevens among them — before courting the 40-year-old Groce, who takes over in Champaign under less-than-ideal circumstances.

The team, which finished ninth in the 12-school Big Ten this season, is losing its best player, 7-1 center Meyers Leonard, for the NBA draft. And Groce will have to recruit in Chicago, where a number of high school and AAU coaches have already insisted they don't know him in spite of his history of finding at least a few players in the city.

None of that, he says, bothers him.

"I can't really get caught up in it," he said. "I tell the players all the time, control the controllables."

What Groce really wants to talk about are math, statistics and swine.

He has pointed out that the house where he grew up in Danville, Ind., just outside Indianapolis, is 107 miles from Illinois. And he's come clean on growing up a Hoosier — a dirty word in the parts of Illinois where Illini basketball matters — and marrying one, His wife, Allison, is an Indiana grad.

What he hasn't talked much about is his time in 4H.

"You know, I used to show hogs — not a lot of people know that about me," he said with a grin, quickly shifting to the language of swine production. "I showed a gilt (a female who's never had a litter) named Tootsie. She was reserve grand champion."

Groce eventually gave up pigs for basketball — he says he knew by 12 that he wanted to coach.

Just out of college at an NAIA school, Taylor University in Upland, Ind., he took a job as a high school math teacher and part-time coach.

The math stuck with him. He uses numbers from Ken Pomeroy, the University of Utah instructor whose basketball stats and analysis are gospel to Internet hoops fans. And Groce's managers know to track virtually every on-court move a player makes.

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