Lawmaker doesn't see Utah Legislature finding consensus on illegal immigration

Published: Saturday, Jan. 8 2011 11:56 p.m. MST

Sen. Luz Robles speaks during a discussion on immigration legislation at the Women's Democratic Club in Salt Lake.

Laura Seitz, Deseret News

SALT LAKE CITY — With Utah lawmakers looking at as many as two dozen immigration bills this year, any sort of agreement between Republican and Democrats will be hard to come by.

Talk lately has centered on an omnibus bill combining the best ideas into a package that both sides of the aisle could get behind.

But Rep. Brian King, D-Salt Lake, doesn't see that happening in the GOP-controlled Legislature.

"I would be shocked if there were any consensus that came out of this session on how to deal with immigration," he said.

King participated in a panel discussion on illegal immigration Saturday hosted by the Women's Democratic Club of Utah. Other participants were Sen. Luz Robles, D-Salt Lake, attorney Mark Alvarez and University of Utah political science professor Claudio Holzner.

So far, proposals floated by Rep. Stephen Sandstrom, R-Orem, and Robles have drawn the most attention heading into the Utah Legislature's Jan. 24 start date. Sandstrom's bill Arizona-style approach emphasizes law enforcement and punishment. Robles' bill centers on accountability and state-issued work permits.

While Alvarez said he "abhors" Sandstrom's plan, Robles' proposed work permits will never receive the federal approval necessary to make them a reality.

"It's borderline dishonest because it's not possible," he said.

"I don't think we should use the horrors of the Sandstrom proposal to propose something that in a sense gives people some hope because it's false hope. Let's makes sure that in discussing immigration issues we don't give false hope to people who are looking for any hope because I tell you what, they're going to get swindled."

Alvarez has long been an advocated for fixing the immigration system at the federal level.

Holzner said it's important to understand what make current immigration policies a failure. People need to ask themselves if the problem is immigration or illegal immigration.

"In the United States, the debate is about illegal immigration. But it too often sounds like it's about immigrants, about whether or not we want foreigners in this country. So the first step is to decide for ourselves where we stand on the immigrations issue, not the illegal immigration issue," he said.

"If the problem is illegal immigration, the solution is simple: legalize it," Holzner said to applause and cheers in the heavily Democratic crowd.

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