2 reeling first-place teams meet Thursday

Two reeling teams that somehow remain atop their division open the NFL's Thursday night package in Oakland. Picking a winner could come down to who throws more picks: Philip Rivers of the Chargers or Carson Palmer of the Raiders.

San Diego has lost three straight, allowing a solid grip on the slippery division to disappear. Now, the Chargers are tied with Oakland, loser of two straight, and Kansas City at 4-4.

Certainly the league was hoping for some sort of shootout as it begins its NFL Network telecasts, and it might get one. If the air is filled with footballs, look for defenders to be catching some of them.

Rivers, having the worst season of his eight-year career, ranks 20th in passer rating, has thrown a league-high 14 interceptions and is making poor decisions. Last Sunday, two of his passes were returned for touchdowns and a third nearly was.

He also helped the Chargers keep it close in a 45-38 loss to unbeaten Green Bay.

"We scored 38 points. That in itself is good," Rivers said. "Obviously, you can't turn the ball over. That was the difference in the game, turning it over. That's something I need to keep working on and do a better job of. We gave ourselves a chance and never quit. But there's no consolation when you lose."

Oakland, a 7-point underdog, has lost divisional games to Kansas City and Denver, bringing both of those clubs back into the AFC West race. As expected, new quarterback Carson Palmer looked rusty (or worse) in the six quarters he's played since ending his self-imposed retirement and being traded by Cincinnati to the Raiders.

Palmer has thrown six interceptions and three touchdowns and has an ugly 53.9 rating.

"You go out and win on Thursday night and it's a great feeling again," Palmer said. "You have a chance to be on top of the division, but you have a chance to get a win and feel good about your team and just keep trucking through the season. I'm extremely excited about what we can be. I think the future is bright."

San Diego's immediate future is brighter.

CHARGERS, 34-23

Detroit (plus 3) at Chicago

Lions come off bye, Bears off nice Monday night showing. Both are wild-card threats.

BEST BET: BEARS, 24-23

St. Louis (plus 2½) at Cleveland

Hard to favor Browns over anyone, and Rams are beginning to show moxie.

UPSET SPECIAL: RAMS, 17-10

Buffalo (plus 5½) at Dallas

Bills are pretty good at fixing woes after a loss and match up well against inconsistent Cowboys.

BILLS, 28-27

Pittsburgh (minus 3) at Cincinnati

Bengals can stamp themselves as true contender with win here. We don't believe quite yet.

STEELERS, 23-17

New Orleans (pick-em) at Atlanta

Statement win for Falcons in NFC South race.

FALCONS, 30-28

New York Giants (plus 3½) at San Francisco

Renewal of a classic rivalry of the 1980s and early '90s. Winner has inside track for playoff bye.

GIANTS, 22-21

New England (plus 1½) at New York Jets

The matchups no longer work for the Patriots. Jets will get physical from outset.

JETS, 27-23

Minnesota (plus 13½) at Green Bay, Monday night