"The public isn't being allowed to participate in the process if the city council is holding a discussion that no one can hear," Smith said. "At the very least, it's not going with the intent of the act, if not outright violating it. It's basically saying the public is going to interfere with our decision-making process if they can hear what we're saying, so we're going to make it so they can't hear what we're saying because it will be easier for us to make a decision."

Some residents expressed frustration at not being able to hear during this — and other — meetings, but members of the West Jordan Budget Advisory Committee have not been deterred. Some of the committee even sought out one-on-one meetings with the city manager to clarify what was muddled in the meeting and on the tape.

"I think it would be nice if, in these work sessions, if they made an effort so people could hear them better, especially when it's going to have such a big impact on people," said Clive Killpack, who helped organize the residents' budget committee. "We're thrilled that at least they're listening to us and considering things we've recommended."

So far, the council has whittled about $490,000 from the proposed city budget, which includes several cuts suggested by the committee. The council intends to cut another $200,000, increase revenue by $2 million through taxes or fees passed on to residents and possibly pursue a $30 million general obligation bond, which would have to be voted on by residents.

In the meantime, the committee is looking for more solutions to suggest to the council, which are more than welcome, Newton says.

"I think we need more of this kind of community involvement, and not less," Newton said. "When you can get 27 people looking at things from different viewpoints, it should be a great help. ... We want to get these ideas out there, get them on the table, and look at them. Nobody has the corner on new ideas."

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