A few days later, Zimmerman talked about what is at the heart of the Buddha dharma.

We live in a dualistic world, he said, "in which there is you and me, and this and that, and subject and object. But we also live in a world in which everything is one. To the degree that you recognize that viscerally, where you feel it as a reality, your anxiety about your fate as an individual human is reduced. You recognize that things as they are, are not wrong, are not imperfect.

"You carry both of those ideas at once. Because it's an and. Things are the same and they're not. You're separate and you're not. Any time you articulate one view, there's another view, which makes the first incomplete. Existence is ineffable. And that's fine."

And then one more seemingly contradictory Buddhist thought. "It's not spooky. And it is spooky. You have to keep letting go of the spookiness."

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