Thankfully, the room is toasty on this particular night. So is the tunnel under the City-County Building, where Bill says Salt Lake City ghost hunters have used EVP (Electronic Voice Phenomena) to pick up the voices of spirits.

Although it's plenty warm, the tunnel leading to the library across the street is genuinely creepy. "Prisoners were brought through here from the jail to the courthouse in the old days," says Bill. He laughs when I ask if we can go back upstairs.

"Sure — there's still a lot to see," he says. "Like there's a mirror in the City Council offices where ghost researchers saw two childlike figures looking back. Lots of strange things go on in the City Council offices." He pauses and smiles. "Maybe I should rephrase that."

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