Tenet: Well, you settled on one of the greatest problems that we face as intelligence professionals working against a problem of deception and denial, while you're working against a target, whether it's Iraq or any other country.

I can only tell you there's no perfection in this business that we engage in. I can only tell you that our eyes are wide open when we deal with these kinds of regimes, and we recognize that the data that comes to us has to be viewed through a different prism.

Now let me say something about the theory that somehow people were deceiving each other in the regime and lying to each other. I don't know whether it's true or not. And the only way we're going to be able to figure that out is through debriefing of individuals, data that we collect, documents that we believe in and evidence.

Question: To the best of the agency's knowledge, to what extent is the Malaysian government, the SCONI group and Gulf Technical Industries implicated in the nuclear trade network connected to Dr. Khan?

Tenet: Well, I believe I said in my statement that the Malaysian government has closed the facility. That's as far as I can go here today in open.

Question: Thank you.

Tenet: You want to take another question? You might get a better answer? Go ahead.

I don't want you to go away disappointed, son.

Question: Well, perhaps, you could tell me to what extent Mr. Todd here is connected?

Tenet: See, you're 0 for 2 and a walk. Let's go. How about baseball? Let's go there.

Moderator: George, thank you very much.

Tenet: Thank you very, very much.