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Lawrence testifies in Hughes ethics case

Published: Saturday, Oct. 11, 2008 12:00 a.m. MDT
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"Of course, we see what's happening now," Garn said. "This is a big media event."

About 2:30 p.m., Riesen appeared with one of his attorneys, David Irvine, ready to testify. Riesen said he had "no idea" what he could tell the committee about the alleged offer Hughes made to Lawrence.

"All I have to go on is Susan's letter," Riesen said, referring to the document she wrote detailing her conversation with Hughes some two years ago. "I'm taking her at her word."

But the committee apparently decided not to call Riesen Friday, or the other two Democratic representatives who signed the complaint against Hughes, Roz McGee of Salt Lake and Neil Hansen of Ogden.

Karrenberg said Lawrence testified on Wednesday and today that she felt "betrayed" by Riesen making the letter public as part of his ethics complaint. The attorney also said Lawrence never used the words "bribe" or "illegal" and that she did not think Hughes did anything wrong.

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Riesen told reporters, "I don't feel I betrayed her at all. The letter was addressed to 'whom it may concern."' He said he had the "greatest respect" for Lawrence, whom he defeated in 2006. "It was not my intention to embarrass her or put any undue pressure on her."

Lawrence wrapped up her testimony in about an hour and gave a brief statement to reporters shortly afterward.

"I think my part is finished. I don't think I'll be called back to testify anymore," she said, adding that because the hearing was closed, "I feel personally it would be inappropriate for me to discuss what went on."

She declined to comment on the statement attributed to her.

"They've obviously chosen a different path as far as the media is concerned," Lawrence said, calling the statement "their interpretation ... Anything you hear from anyone else is just that — their interpretation."

Hansen arrived even before the committee convened shortly after 9 a.m., ready to testify. Hansen said he planned to tell the committee of lawmakers that he, too, had been told several times that $50,000 was available for his campaign if he would support vouchers.

The difference between what he'd heard and the accusations against Hughes is that Hansen said the offer did not come directly from another legislator. Instead, Hansen said he was told "in passing" the money was merely available from pro-voucher groups.

"It's a matter of his using his position as a state representative to broker a deal, if that deal did go down," Hansen said of Hughes.

Hansen said he also intended to testify that legislative leadership likely knew what was going on. "I don't have absolute knowledge, but my guess is there's not a whole lot that goes on up here that leadership doesn't know about," he said.


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