During the time she was in the loft, Mindy Graham sent a text message to her LDS bishop for help and called a friend back, telling her not to come because she was worried for her friend's safety.

Eventually a patrol car arrived, and Matthew Graham partially opened the door to talk with an officer.

"I was terrified he would open the door and shoot the police," she said. "Honestly, that's what I expected him to do."

She said her husband hates police and views them as terrorists.

Matthew Graham also made threats to the officers who had set up tactical positions around the house, said Utah County Sheriff's Officer Mike Brower. Those statements included information about taking second place in a sniper competition.

"But Mr. Graham never actually shot at anybody?" Bainum asked.

"No," Brower said.

"Are you aware that he ever pointed a gun in anger?" Bainum asked.

"Not that I'm aware of," Brower replied.

Bainum also clarified statements that had been circulating regarding the incident.

"Did you ever tell anyone that Matt said he would kill you or the kids?"

"No," Mindy Graham said. "I don't know where that came from."

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