What wasn't mentioned was how in-migration from other states might affect Utah's ecological footprint, whether that change reduces the other states' footprints or if Utah should get an ecological footprint credit for taking in people from other states.

Also not clearly explained was why it's bad for a desert state to import much of its foodstuffs from places that are more suited to mass agricultural production, such as the Midwest or California.

A group member said it's better to have denser housing, like a close-living community with common green grounds, than a subdivision with large lots. When a reporter asked if New York City, with relatively little common greenery, is better than a Utah subdivision, one of the speakers said that was a complex issue.

What is more obvious to the group is that a change has occurred with Utah's footprint.

"It's important to think about how much we produce," said Wayne Martinson, a member of the UPEC board of directors, "how self-sufficient we are. ...

"I'd like to see major proposals take into account ecological footprint."

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